New old tires
#16
Here we GO...........
Gary
......just set a PB @ Mosport on 5-DAY-old RE71Rs...properly stored
Gary
......just set a PB @ Mosport on 5-DAY-old RE71Rs...properly stored
#17
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Last year I ordered a set of tires online (not from Tire Rack or Discount Tire) and the brand new set had a 2.5 year old date code. Called the seller, was assured that they were brand new, stored in a heated and air conditioned warehouse, blah, blah, blah. Mounted them, went to an HPDE. They were slippery as snot; worse than the heat cycled, worn out tires that they were supposed to replace. Promptly removed them and shipped them back. I got a full refund through the Buyers Guarantee on the website.
A guy in our region who is a very good driver tried a borrowed set of 3 year old "propery stored" tires from a friend during a private track day. One tire let go on the exit of the only corner that has a concrete wall. $18,000.00 worth of damage to his new, less than 4 month old $100K Spyder. When he was telling me the story, I stopped him as soon as he said he borrowed his friend's set of tires and said, "I already know where this is going, how much damage?"
Never trust old rubber on the track.
Tires are cheap compared to the potential damage or cost to you when they fail.
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2 years ago, I was on track on 4 year old Michelins, the tires had over 70% tread left, car had been stored indoors most of it's life. Right rear separated on track on an 85 mph left hander. Car over rotated ..... to say the least.....
Last year I ordered a set of tires online (not from Tire Rack or Discount Tire) and the brand new set had a 2.5 year old date code. Called the seller, was assured that they were brand new, stored in a heated and air conditioned warehouse, blah, blah, blah. Mounted them, went to an HPDE. They were slippery as snot; worse than the heat cycled, worn out tires that they were supposed to replace. Promptly removed them and shipped them back. I got a full refund through the Buyers Guarantee on the website.
A guy in our region who is a very good driver tried a borrowed set of 3 year old "propery stored" tires from a friend during a private track day. One tire let go on the exit of the only corner that has a concrete wall. $18,000.00 worth of damage to his new, less than 4 month old $100K Spyder. When he was telling me the story, I stopped him as soon as he said he borrowed his friend's set of tires and said, "I already know where this is going, how much damage?"
Never trust old rubber on the track.
Tires are cheap compared to the potential damage or cost to you when they fail.
Last year I ordered a set of tires online (not from Tire Rack or Discount Tire) and the brand new set had a 2.5 year old date code. Called the seller, was assured that they were brand new, stored in a heated and air conditioned warehouse, blah, blah, blah. Mounted them, went to an HPDE. They were slippery as snot; worse than the heat cycled, worn out tires that they were supposed to replace. Promptly removed them and shipped them back. I got a full refund through the Buyers Guarantee on the website.
A guy in our region who is a very good driver tried a borrowed set of 3 year old "propery stored" tires from a friend during a private track day. One tire let go on the exit of the only corner that has a concrete wall. $18,000.00 worth of damage to his new, less than 4 month old $100K Spyder. When he was telling me the story, I stopped him as soon as he said he borrowed his friend's set of tires and said, "I already know where this is going, how much damage?"
Never trust old rubber on the track.
Tires are cheap compared to the potential damage or cost to you when they fail.
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#22
Thanks for all your replies.
This is a little off topic, but what's the model of Hankook tire that a lot of you guys use, the inexpensive one? Are they better supplied now?
This is a little off topic, but what's the model of Hankook tire that a lot of you guys use, the inexpensive one? Are they better supplied now?
#23
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Z214, usually the C51 compound
#24
Just checked ebay. Those tires are expensive!
I've been running Federal RS-R's. $450 for a set of 285/18s. They're awesome on a cold day for a few laps, but it's hard to examine lap times and data because they get slower with each lap as they get heat in them.
I've been running Federal RS-R's. $450 for a set of 285/18s. They're awesome on a cold day for a few laps, but it's hard to examine lap times and data because they get slower with each lap as they get heat in them.
#25
I wouldn't call them a racing tires, but they're definitely a step above ultra high performance tires. The level of performance they deliver for the price is almost impossible to beat. Last set I bought cost me $420 with free shipping through Amazon.
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They might work for a VERY short period of time but they will deteriorate and fail at 5x the rate which is already not a long time for race tires. I bought some sticker A6's from a friend because I wanted to try a new size and all of my stock were different. They were from 2013. Took about 12 laps before they started blistering, warping and vibrating. Had a couple more laps before they would have blown. Hoosiers (at least the A6) were some of the most durable tires I've even driven. They may have heat cycled out, but they were some well put together tires. You also aren't going to get the grip from them.
I have some 2017 A7's I'm starting to get nervous about. Need to use or sell. Car has been down for almost a year.
I have some 2017 A7's I'm starting to get nervous about. Need to use or sell. Car has been down for almost a year.
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Mark- good morning- What brand of PVC / Saran Wrap? How old is it and how thick? . Is it 24" , 18" or 12" roll?. Do you prefer Seal Wrap brand? . Do you get it in the 2000' rolls?
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Again, i did this with Galati's RS6 RA1s (2 heat cycles) from a 2004 event and used these tires for an event in 2010 and ran some of my top times, especially with a tire like an RA1, that is always about 1 second below hoosier times. This 5-6 year old tire shouldnt be confused with someone with tires on a car, sitting in a corner of a garage, or in some parking lot outside.