Bittting the bullet and buying slicks for the runoffs. Suggestions for size & Brand?
08-03-2018, 09:05 PM
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That's my plan in T2 and in T1 with same unoptimized car. So much is the driver. Maybe if I have time I'll hit Sonoma for a test day or streetcar trackday but it is 7+ hrs away from me. My 1st race there in June Majors I really sucked!
Over the hill getting light at 2 and 3a waiting for grip haven't figured out how to manage that
That carosel
Those esses
T10's wall
Sometimes I think I should just go fishing...
Over the hill getting light at 2 and 3a waiting for grip haven't figured out how to manage that
That carosel
Those esses
T10's wall
Sometimes I think I should just go fishing...
08-03-2018, 09:10 PM
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yeah, i think the 280x645s or 300x650 might be big enough to not have those issues, but there are a lot of M3 e46s running the yokes with good luck being just a little lighter than my car (maybe 1-200lbs) its a big purchase and i dont want to get it wrong. i guess if we had someone here that had a vet or a BMW has run the yok or michellin, with the 2900lb weight and 375 hp range, that might be useful to hear of those experiences.
08-03-2018, 09:41 PM
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What class does your car run? I won the 2014 Runoffs in T2 driving a porsche and i was on A7’s. Ive driven on every major brand slick tire so let me know if I can be of any help. Good luck!
08-04-2018, 09:15 AM
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HC1>HC2>>HC3>>>HC4. etc Because of this, get some practice on stickers. Not 2HC scrubs, stickers. Otherwise your butt will be calibrated to what scrubs can do and you may not use all of the tire when you sticker up. Yeah I know that’s expensive, but consider what you’re going to spend for the runoff weekend. Don’t compromise yourself by cheating out prior to the event. Ask me how I know.
08-04-2018, 09:56 AM
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As we draw closer to this years SCCA national championships, ive come to the realization that i probably wont do one of these races again and should make the car as best as it can be. Tires are pretty important and since my car falls into a class that can run any tire, why not just put on some that really have some bite.
08-04-2018, 10:03 AM
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Mark likes his tires just like he prefers his red wines. About 6-7 years old and about 55 degrees.
08-04-2018, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 38D
The sidewall on the yoks was too soft for my car, but in your sizes they may be fine
for slicks during qualifying it’s pace lap, get up to at 90% speed lap, magic fast lap, come in.
for slicks during qualifying it’s pace lap, get up to at 90% speed lap, magic fast lap, come in.
08-04-2018, 01:02 PM
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HC1>HC2>>HC3>>>HC4. etc Because of this, get some practice on stickers. Not 2HC scrubs, stickers. Otherwise your butt will be calibrated to what scrubs can do and you may not use all of the tire when you sticker up. Yeah I know that’s expensive, but consider what you’re going to spend for the runoff weekend. Don’t compromise yourself by cheating out prior to the event. Ask me how I know.
Sticker up. Early and often. Stickers always makes things better.
08-04-2018, 03:52 PM
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HC1>HC2>>HC3>>>HC4. etc Because of this, get some practice on stickers. Not 2HC scrubs, stickers. Otherwise your butt will be calibrated to what scrubs can do and you may not use all of the tire when you sticker up. Yeah I know that’s expensive, but consider what you’re going to spend for the runoff weekend. Don’t compromise yourself by cheating out prior to the event. Ask me how I know.
VR, when guys that have a LOT of experience, bolt on a set of slicks, stickers etc.. they always go faster. at least if they know what they are doing. as far as Yoks.. tony C is one of THE best chassis and engine tuners in the country. this car has yoks.... its about the same power and weight as my car... runs about 2 seconds faster and has a BOAT load of newer technology. its a 100k car vs my $20k car
08-04-2018, 04:04 PM
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2014 my 1st SCCA Runoffs a big dog in my class had literally stacks of the new Hoosier A7's. The rest of us could not even buy them. We were on A6's. How did that front runner get to test on them to know they were faster than the A6's? Hmmm.....
2017 we get to race the Runoffs at Indy! Who hoo! Two guys in my class did not like there qualifying times. They brought out their "back-up" cars!
You will never win against that if you are a regular amateur racer with a non-automotive job. I like the sport but we all have our priorities.
08-04-2018, 04:14 PM
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Then no one should race. Face it. Everyone is a loser except the 1 guy who wins. It is still fun to have people around you to race. Believe me new tires are just the tip of the iceberg.
2014 my 1st SCCA Runoffs a big dog in my class had literally stacks of the new Hoosier A7's. The rest of us could not even buy them. We were on A6's. How did that front runner get to test on them to know they were faster than the A6's? Hmmm.....
2017 we get to race the Runoffs at Indy! Who hoo! Two guys in my class did not like there qualifying times. They brought out their "back-up" cars!
You will never win against that if you are a regular amateur racer with a non-automotive job. I like the sport but we all have our priorities.
2014 my 1st SCCA Runoffs a big dog in my class had literally stacks of the new Hoosier A7's. The rest of us could not even buy them. We were on A6's. How did that front runner get to test on them to know they were faster than the A6's? Hmmm.....
2017 we get to race the Runoffs at Indy! Who hoo! Two guys in my class did not like there qualifying times. They brought out their "back-up" cars!
You will never win against that if you are a regular amateur racer with a non-automotive job. I like the sport but we all have our priorities.
its MOSTY about $$$$$ If you want to WIN. .Sure , driver skill has a little to do with it, but just take this case in point. 10 person team, million dollar car , and a 15 year old kid! . ..........doesnt even have his license to drive city streets.. He would put some hurt on ANYONE YOU KNOW in this sport , TODAY!! anywhere!!! why???? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
08-04-2018, 04:20 PM
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Then you're not racing with them, just alongside them -- doing parade laps or DE. Maybe you're racing in the wrong class, then.
My perspective may be biased since I've only raced Spec classes (Skippy MX-5 and PCA SPB), the idea being that the same driver (especially the fastest ones) could drive ALL the cars in the class within 0.5sec lap-time diffs or less. I just don't see the point or fun in "racing" with class peers that have cars which are 2-3sec faster than mine (if driven by the same driver). That's DE -- just doing laps, having fun, and passing without point-bys (wow!) -- not that there's anything wrong with it.
My perspective may be biased since I've only raced Spec classes (Skippy MX-5 and PCA SPB), the idea being that the same driver (especially the fastest ones) could drive ALL the cars in the class within 0.5sec lap-time diffs or less. I just don't see the point or fun in "racing" with class peers that have cars which are 2-3sec faster than mine (if driven by the same driver). That's DE -- just doing laps, having fun, and passing without point-bys (wow!) -- not that there's anything wrong with it.
08-04-2018, 04:25 PM
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Mark, I know Tony well, from the BMW world. He knows his stuff.
You can't go wrong with either slick IMO. However, I believe the DH will be more consistently near its peak on the Sears Point surface.
Your decision though
You can't go wrong with either slick IMO. However, I believe the DH will be more consistently near its peak on the Sears Point surface.
Your decision though
08-04-2018, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
Then you're not racing with them, just alongside them -- doing parade laps or DE. Maybe you're racing in the wrong class, then.
My perspective may be biased since I've only raced Spec classes (Skippy MX-5 and PCA SPB), the idea being that the same driver (especially the fastest ones) could drive ALL the cars in the class within 0.5sec lap-time diffs or less. I just don't see the point or fun in "racing" with class peers that have cars which are 2-3sec faster than mine (if driven by the same driver). That's DE -- just doing laps, having fun, and passing without point-bys (wow!) -- not that there's anything wrong with it.
My perspective may be biased since I've only raced Spec classes (Skippy MX-5 and PCA SPB), the idea being that the same driver (especially the fastest ones) could drive ALL the cars in the class within 0.5sec lap-time diffs or less. I just don't see the point or fun in "racing" with class peers that have cars which are 2-3sec faster than mine (if driven by the same driver). That's DE -- just doing laps, having fun, and passing without point-bys (wow!) -- not that there's anything wrong with it.
08-04-2018, 09:42 PM
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