Watkins Glen CR in 9 days and no trash talk??
05-25-2018, 02:51 PM
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Funny when I did the Driving experience with the 488 and Cup cars in Vegas that's how their instructors communicate. Each one has a hand held indicator controller and they use it to tell the instructor behind what side to take the pass on. Was very cool.
05-25-2018, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary R.
I think a signal would be confusing at best, just be predictable and the cup(s) will be by you in a flash. If you give it some thought you can actually use the timing as part of your strategy to jam up a competitor.. not that I ever did that. 
05-25-2018, 03:37 PM
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05-25-2018, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Solk
It's all good, we're clear now, just point to the side of the track I am going to, I got it 
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05-25-2018, 04:44 PM
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05-25-2018, 04:55 PM
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I disagree with the hand signal comment however. If I am on line and I point someone by off line to let them know I have seen them I am doing it as a form of communication. If it makes it safer for both cars I don't see how it can be counter productive. I don't see how over communicating with out of class cars at all could be counterproductive as long as you are remaining predictable simultaneously.
Hmmm just driving in the middle seems like a poor solution as it means the car behind is left to guess what you are doing.Now you aren't predictable at all. Is he going to stay in the middle, go left, go right, who knows, it seems Gary said be predictable which would mean do what you do every other lap, stay on line and try to work out where the pass can be made with the least impact to both cars, not just stay in the middle of the track.
Hmmm just driving in the middle seems like a poor solution as it means the car behind is left to guess what you are doing.Now you aren't predictable at all. Is he going to stay in the middle, go left, go right, who knows, it seems Gary said be predictable which would mean do what you do every other lap, stay on line and try to work out where the pass can be made with the least impact to both cars, not just stay in the middle of the track.
05-25-2018, 04:57 PM
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05-25-2018, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cmac
Joe, if it's on Rennlist it's basically a legally binding contract--so don't listen to Frank. We'll be monitoring your times carefully! 
Joe will do superbly
05-25-2018, 05:24 PM
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If I do break 2:14 it'll be because of the awesome coaching I've had so far this year
05-26-2018, 10:20 AM
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I promise if a faster SPB catches me in the corner, I will absolutely give the pass. How else can I find a "rabbit" to chase? According to Rennpoints I'll be several seconds behind the next closest F car so a SPB that turns 2:15-16 would be perfect for me to follow, and it looks like there are a couple SPB guys at that pace. I had some "pro" lessons this week at the TrackMasters event so I have high hopes, but I also had my engine tested and it's a little down on power so I'm realistic. If I can break 2:16 consistently I'll be happy, and if I break 2:14 beers for everyone on me
Still focused though on running a clean race with no drama. Learned some hard lessons my first year, and the single most important aspect for me is just to finish both races clean, and if I happen to have some good laps more the better. I am excited, though, to try and put what I learned to work!
Still focused though on running a clean race with no drama. Learned some hard lessons my first year, and the single most important aspect for me is just to finish both races clean, and if I happen to have some good laps more the better. I am excited, though, to try and put what I learned to work!
Plus, this idea of predicting or being "wedded" to lap times or a lap time goal is absurd.
You don't KNOW what is going to happen, what the conditions will be, where your head will be or how well you'll perform... All you can do is focus on execution of the last two things.
Improve the performance of EVERY individual skill execution in the car, DON'T waste time and the lap time, and your position relative to the other cars, will take care of itself.
Plus, it's NOT static throughout the weekend. Some folks start strong and fade, some are slow learners, some summon it all together when they most need it. Execute the PLAN, Joe! Good luck.
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05-26-2018, 10:46 AM
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Plus, this idea of predicting or being "wedded" to lap times or a lap time goal is absurd.
You don't KNOW what is going to happen, what the conditions will be, where your head will be or how well you'll perform... All you can do is focus on execution of the last two things.
Improve the performance of EVERY individual skill execution in the car, DON'T waste time and the lap time, and your position relative to the other cars, will take care of itself.
Plus, it's NOT static throughout the weekend. Some folks start strong and fade, some are slow learners, some summon it all together when they most need it. Execute the PLAN, Joe! Good luck.
You don't KNOW what is going to happen, what the conditions will be, where your head will be or how well you'll perform... All you can do is focus on execution of the last two things.
Improve the performance of EVERY individual skill execution in the car, DON'T waste time and the lap time, and your position relative to the other cars, will take care of itself.
Plus, it's NOT static throughout the weekend. Some folks start strong and fade, some are slow learners, some summon it all together when they most need it. Execute the PLAN, Joe! Good luck.
A 2:05 at WGI one day may actually mean you drove better than a 2:01 lap the next day. Sometimes it is the conditions and the ebb and flow of the race that make the biggest difference.
05-26-2018, 01:46 PM
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05-26-2018, 02:22 PM
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10 2:06's in a row means you're driving very consistently, at your comfort level.
Then, you sit down with your coach and the data and identify what you've done in that great, tight target grouping that will PUT you in the 2:05's (or better, if combined with other isolated moments of brilliance).
Yes, an outlier is usually because lightning struck and you can' replicate it, which means you didn't have a PLAN to do it and don't know how to DO IT AGAIN!
Have fun at the Glen, Rennlisters!
I'm racing at VIR in my own car and will try to take all this advice to heart!