PCA VIR Club Race 2018
06-27-2018, 04:53 PM
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Watched some video Saturday where a slower car appeared to pick a side, so the overtaking car committed to his pass, then the car being passed moved right, and ran him off the track resulting in a busted radiator.
Watched some video Saturday where a slower car appeared to pick a side, so the overtaking car committed to his pass, then the car being passed moved right, and ran him off the track resulting in a busted radiator.
06-27-2018, 06:46 PM
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Tini and I really clicked with the VIR circuit. Fast, scary, technical, and very rewarding. The professor, Matt D, gave me some coaching tips that that I managed to bungle at the top of the climbing esses. Skip to 31:20 to see how badly I implimented his suggestions. Sorry coach!
In all 3 races it felt like I was always stuck behind a slower car with way more horsepower. I've got to work on my racecraft!
In all 3 races it felt like I was always stuck behind a slower car with way more horsepower. I've got to work on my racecraft!
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06-27-2018, 09:23 PM
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Tini and I really clicked with the VIR circuit. Fast, scary, technical, and very rewarding. The professor, Matt D, gave me some coaching tips that that I managed to bungle at the top of the climbing esses. Skip to 31:20 to see how badly I implimented his suggestions. Sorry coach!
It felt like I was always stuck behind a slower car with way more horsepower. I've got to work on my racecraft!
It felt like I was always stuck behind a slower car with way more horsepower. I've got to work on my racecraft!
I told u that in ur trailer, isnt it
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06-27-2018, 10:37 PM
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I prefer the term "aimless wandering" and there's way too much of it, especially on VIR's back straight. These days I just assume they're checking texts. Sadly, I doubt few of the guilty spend any time reading Rennlist...
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06-27-2018, 10:39 PM
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06-27-2018, 11:00 PM
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06-28-2018, 01:00 AM
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We had one car we supported loose and engine Friday, but our other K class client shared his car with this driver for the Enduro on Sunday which was pretty neat. It was great to see our guys having a good time sweating it out together in the enduro. A little bumble in the pits caused us time that could have taken us to a P1 finish, but that is racing (and wisdom!). As a silver lining they did win the worker's choice award.
Sorry for those that suffered losses. From my understanding race control was very busy taking down numbers.
re: good club racer is both "safe" and "fast" not just fast. Very true. Unfortunately sometimes the "safe" portion can be an expensive one to learn.
Sorry for those that suffered losses. From my understanding race control was very busy taking down numbers.
re: good club racer is both "safe" and "fast" not just fast. Very true. Unfortunately sometimes the "safe" portion can be an expensive one to learn.
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06-28-2018, 10:03 AM
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Pictures from the white Sprint... Courtesy of F&S Enterprises. You can view these with or without FB account... Copy and Paste the full thing into a browser
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06-28-2018, 01:24 PM
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Hi Clark, I raced with you guys at Barber, finished ahead of the Es in Sprint 1 and behind you, Meissner and Martinson in Sprint 2. Had a great time racing with you, admired your driving, complimented you on it Saturday night. You're right, I should be faster, working on it, doesn't mean I had any less fun racing (cleanly) with you guys. I admire what you guys do every weekend. Sorry to be in your way.
06-28-2018, 01:50 PM
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To expand on this, if the overtaken car just PICKS A SIDE, telegraphing clearly to the car behind WHICH side has the most room to make a safe pass, it's best for all concerned. NO reason to go OFFLINE, make the faster cars take the long way around. But make a decision and transmit unequivocally that decision to those following (or overtaking) behind.
I see a TREMENDOUS amount of "meandering" down the straights. No reason for it. Also, those slower classes battling side-by-side need to keep an eye on the rear view mirror. Nothing wrong with disengaging for a moment, letting the leaders by, and reengaging.
That said, the primary responsibility SHOULD be on the overtaking car to make a safe pass. I know it's not the rule, but it answers a lot of questions for people trying to make the right decisions WHEN passing... Use it as your own guide.
I see a TREMENDOUS amount of "meandering" down the straights. No reason for it. Also, those slower classes battling side-by-side need to keep an eye on the rear view mirror. Nothing wrong with disengaging for a moment, letting the leaders by, and reengaging.
That said, the primary responsibility SHOULD be on the overtaking car to make a safe pass. I know it's not the rule, but it answers a lot of questions for people trying to make the right decisions WHEN passing... Use it as your own guide.
But yes...as Mark and Peter mentioned, all anyone asks is for the car being overtaken to be PREDICTABLE... pick a side, stay there until the car(s) pass. Simple and avoids all kinds of issues.
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06-28-2018, 01:50 PM
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Hi Clark, I raced with you guys at Barber, finished ahead of the Es in Sprint 1 and behind you, Meissner and Martinson in Sprint 2. Had a great time racing with you, admired your driving, complimented you on it Saturday night. You're right, I should be faster, working on it, doesn't mean I had any less fun racing (cleanly) with you guys. I admire what you guys do every weekend. Sorry to be in your way.
Just because you are not squeezing 110% out of the car, it doesn't mean you're not having fun. And club racing should be fun.
There are different factors at play here, driver skill is certainly not the only one.
Dealing with traffic, slow, fast, in class or not, is part of race craft. Don't complain, deal with it.
06-28-2018, 04:27 PM
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Agree. I'm just a hack, but I was stuck all weekend behind two cars three classes ahead of me who I could occasionally get around in slow sections only to be passed like I was in neutral on the straights. Is what it is.
