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People who overstate their driving ability. The reality of correcting oversteer.

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On the topic, Kick-Plate is good practice.
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She said!

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Originally Posted by fleadh
Not all oversteer situations are created equally.

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I will go one better, no two over-steer situations are created equal (unless a computer is simulating them).
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Originally Posted by 991carreradriver
I will go one better, no two over-steer situations are created equal (unless a computer is simulating them).
I have to disagree to a point..... if we are talking about controllable over steer..... All are handled the same way. if you correct at the same rate and force of the control/recovery they are all the same. rain, pavement, power on, power off, the correction process and inputs are all based on the same formula.
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Just so we're clear. This is what we're talking about, right?

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Just so we're clear. This is what we're talking about, right?

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Originally Posted by mark kibort
I have to disagree to a point..... if we are talking about controllable over steer..... All are handled the same way. if you correct at the same rate and force of the control/recovery they are all the same. rain, pavement, power on, power off, the correction process and inputs are all based on the same formula.
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I could totally save that. With one hand, even.
Anyone could, if they wanted to.
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Originally Posted by jscott82
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Originally Posted by mark kibort
I have to disagree to a point..... if we are talking about controllable over steer..... All are handled the same way. if you correct at the same rate and force of the control/recovery they are all the same. rain, pavement, power on, power off, the correction process and inputs are all based on the same formula.
Where in my post did I reference how to handle a controllable over-steer? I am not sure who you are disagreeing with but it surely is not my post.
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Originally Posted by 991carreradriver
Where in my post did I reference how to handle a controllable over-steer? I am not sure who you are disagreeing with but it surely is not my post.
you mentioned "no two oversteers are the same" i suggest that if they are controllable, they are dealt with the same technique. thats all.

Well, if it is out of control, you are going to spin and it cant be corrected.. if it is controllable........ it is all recovered and controlled the same.... by keeping in steering inputs in synch with the rear of the car. thats all ...just trying to break it down to a simple technique and universal condition. Think drifting and how controllable it can be by someone that knows car control.

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