How to deal with new NASA TT and ST AVG HP rules
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Hey I need all the help they'll give me Dez! How will I look under the rules? Weight at 3250 and 508 hp and running slicks Attachment 1272579 going to try to make it to nationals at COTA.
if you have the original Dyno file I can send you the printout with the exact numerical values you would need.
I want to make COTA, but got rear ended doing TT last weekend. Not sure how much damage yet. A Corvette spun in front of me and I had to slow down because he crossed the track twice. A clown in a garage built kit car who had earlier passed under red and divebombed on first green ignored all of the dirt and debris and hit me at full speed right in the back. If it wasn't a pissant little car, mine would be totaled for sure.
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Originally Posted by z06801
Hey I need all the help they'll give me Dez! How will I look under the rules? Weight at 3250 and 508 hp and running slicks Attachment 1272579 going to try to make it to nationals at COTA.
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I hate hearing that, hopefully it doesn't turn out to bad and you can get it back on the track. I knew I was close with the slicks. I should get it dynoed again as I think it's down from that a bit now. I have never tried the A7s, might actually be faster with them as opposed to the takes off Pirellis I've been getting. I'll try to find the file.
#19
Originally Posted by Thundermoose
Should be good under average hp calc. As mentioned get the file in 50 rpm table.
#20
Originally Posted by z06801
I hate hearing that, hopefully it doesn't turn out to bad and you can get it back on the track. I knew I was close with the slicks. I should get it dynoed again as I think it's down from that a bit now. I have never tried the A7s, might actually be faster with them as opposed to the takes off Pirellis I've been getting. I'll try to find the file.
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Back to the topic at hand. Does anyone think it is fair that a small high revving engine that uses low boost gets penalized, when a small high revving engine that uses high compression and $$$$$ does not?
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They unjustly categored all FI cars. Even though hp for hp, NA is most always faster. Every year there is some rule of this nature. This is tame by recent standards.
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its a way of HP averaging.
interesting, if you ever look at HP curves, even ones that are very broad, they all seem to produce average HP of near 92% of max. (based on gear spacing)
the good thing about the rules is that they finally almost completely got rid of the effects of "more torque than HP" as factor, numerically, which had NO significance and was only used before that confusion was corrected.
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i didnt see the rule changes on the link that show any unfairness, but i did find a rule change that was unfair.. over 4.95 Liters, and you need to run in GTS5. how unfair of that, when you have 370rwhp, weight 3000lbs and you dont get to run with the CUP cars with over 400rwhp and 2800lbs. real fair NASA ! just when they start making me think they get it, then they do something like this!
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i didnt see the rule changes on the link that show any unfairness, but i did find a rule change that was unfair.. over 4.95 Liters, and you need to run in GTS5. how unfair of that, when you have 370rwhp, weight 3000lbs and you dont get to run with the CUP cars with over 400rwhp and 2800lbs. real fair NASA ! just when they start making me think they get it, then they do something like this!
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The 250 rpm calculations aren't fair to me either. It gives me "more power" compared to the old 500rpm calculations. It's not unfair, all of us have to deal with it. There are always going to be some cars that are more favorable than others, this isn't Spec Racing.