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Old 10-06-2017, 01:12 PM
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Pilot Sport Cup 2's has been a big upgrade for me over the Pirelli P Zero 4's.
I also added two new control arms up front to take the camber out a bit and the car is handling sooooo much better with these few changes. Lap times have come down significantly.
Good luck, and above all, be safe.
Old 10-06-2017, 01:16 PM
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I couldn’t agree more to the comment to get a Miata and go from there. I spent nearly 20 years chasing speed by getting an ever faster car. I finally stepped down now and am loving it. I’m at the point where I’m getting nearly everything out of the car, and my skills are up a few notches as a result (or is it the other way around?).

I strongly advise you to get a lower horsepower car, much lighter, rear wheel drive, with no TC or ESC. Once you start passing guys in Turbos and GT3s, you’ll know you’re learning something.
Old 10-06-2017, 06:38 PM
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Thank you again, I'm sure you guys get tired of the same newbie questions.
Old 10-06-2017, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 67383wagon
Thank you again, I'm sure you guys get tired of the same newbie questions.
No, it just gives us all a chance to tell you to buy a spec boxster or miata!
Old 10-06-2017, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 24Chromium
I couldn’t agree more to the comment to get a Miata and go from there. I spent nearly 20 years chasing speed by getting an ever faster car. I finally stepped down now and am loving it. I’m at the point where I’m getting nearly everything out of the car, and my skills are up a few notches as a result (or is it the other way around?).

I strongly advise you to get a lower horsepower car, much lighter, rear wheel drive, with no TC or ESC. Once you start passing guys in Turbos and GT3s, you’ll know you’re learning something.
Totally agree, started PCA in a 993 Turbo. Like you moved very quickly to solo in my first year. But I never really learned to drive fast until I bought my 944, save the Turbo for the street and buy a lower horsepower track car. Most fun you can have in a 944 is sticking your front bumper to the rear bumper of a high horsepower car after they pass you in a long straight
Old 10-06-2017, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HoBoJoe
No, it just gives us all a chance to tell you to buy a spec boxster or miata!
or a 944 but in in general, RL helps you spend more money
Old 10-06-2017, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HoBoJoe
No, it just gives us all a chance to tell you to buy a spec boxster or miata!
Or a Mini

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Old 10-07-2017, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank 993 C4S
or a 944 but in in general, RL helps you spend more money
But, we help you spend it more wisely!
Welcome to my addiction.
Old 10-07-2017, 11:54 AM
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Personally I would just stick with street tires on your Turbo at least for a year. Do a bunch of events and keep having fun.

I agree that cars like a Turbo with AWD/high HP/PSM make it more difficult to really learn car control. These cars also cover up bad habits easily. While switching to a '99 986 SPB set up did wonders for my driving, I don't think you need to rush right into another car.

Many people feel incredibly addicted when they start tracking but some lose their 'drive' after a year or two. Just enjoy it for now. You can ALWAYS get another car at any time down the line.
Old 10-07-2017, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir5n
Run the tires you have and feel them get loose. Move on after you're comfortable with slipping and sliding around.

Have fun and stay safe.
What kind of slipping and sliding does this mean? Catch a little oversteer, 4 wheel drift out of every corner? Inquiring newbs want to know.
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Originally Posted by ddd200
What kind of slipping and sliding does this mean? Catch a little oversteer, 4 wheel drift out of every corner? Inquiring newbs want to know.
Push the car until you start to run out of grip, then adjust your inputs accordingly. Good coaching and lots of productive seat time will help you get there. The car needs to be sliding in a controlled fashion (slip angle) to be fast; the pro coaches on this board can get into this in a much more, well, professional manner than I--heed what they may contribute.

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Old 10-07-2017, 11:31 PM
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Sell the turbo
Old 10-07-2017, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ddd200
What kind of slipping and sliding does this mean? Catch a little oversteer, 4 wheel drift out of every corner? Inquiring newbs want to know.
Read this:
http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...r-Control.aspx
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Great article hf1, really spells out what everyone has been saying.
Thank you
Old 10-08-2017, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
Good explanation. Thanks.


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