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Old 08-26-2017, 02:43 PM
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Default Friend's Cayman S new OEM brake rotors cracking at first DE. Normal?

Friend just got new rotors two weeks ago.
OEM Porsche drilled.

He said they are already starting to crack on first DE event.
Is this normal?

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Welcome to the world of genuine Porsche rotors. They are crap, and crack easily. I was recommended to try Sebro slotted as a cost effective replacement, and am satisfied so far.
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Originally Posted by sugarwood
He said they are already starting to crack on first DE event.
Is this normal?
Yes that is normal on a cross drilled rotor. They are perfectly fine to keep running until the cracks start to join 2 or more holes.
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yep... i dont think any here have more experience with this, and this is what they look like after a short time on the track..... as was mentioned.. when the cracks start joining each other or reach the outer edge, time to pitch them. go solid. they last a lot longer. and then if you really care..... go 2 piece. they will last 10 x longer.
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Originally Posted by Glyndellis
Welcome to the world of genuine Porsche rotors. They are crap, and crack easily. I was recommended to try Sebro slotted as a cost effective replacement, and am satisfied so far.
Who makes OEM rotors?
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Originally Posted by sugarwood
Friend just got new rotors two weeks ago.
OEM Porsche drilled.

He said they are already starting to crack on first DE event.
Is this normal?

Totally normal.
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Here is the latest. Does he need to replace the rotors yet?

He says,
Pagid Pads has about 11 track days (down to about 30%) and rotors with the large cracks (front) have about 7 track days. Will need to replace all pads and might get another few days from the rotors.
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Originally Posted by Glyndellis
Welcome to the world of genuine Porsche rotors. They are crap, and crack easily. I was recommended to try Sebro slotted as a cost effective replacement, and am satisfied so far.
+1 for Sebro, Tried PFC 2-piece and didn't think they were worth it.
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Cracking looks normal for track use. Should also check thickness. Looks like a 981, correct? To change the front pads you need to remove the caliper so the additional time/work to swap rotors is negligible. The Girodisc 2-piece rotors seem to be popular.
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Cracking looks normal and as others have said, the OEM rotors really aren't up for track abuse - congrats for pushing the car hard enough to get the rotors to this level

Solid slotted is the way to go. I have Girodisks on the front, really like them but they are expensive ($1200 new, $800 for replacement rotors - the hats are kept) and I have Sebros in the rear. Last time I replaced the Sebros they were $250 for the pair. While the Sebros aren't fancy two piece rotors with extra cooling built into the hats they are a LOT cheaper. They work equal to the Giros and have about the same life.
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IMO, he is pretty hard on brakes. He needs to learn how to use more engine braking (downshifting), and get stouter rotors. Have home take a look at Girodiscs...
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Umm, what?? Those rotors look perfectly fine for tracked discs, and they have plenty of life left in them. Newb question...

And, yes, Sebro slotted are better and what I prefer.
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Originally Posted by 09RedGTS
IMO, he is pretty hard on brakes. He needs to learn how to use more engine braking (downshifting), and get stouter rotors. Have home take a look at Girodiscs...
engine braking

That's the last thing you want to do on the track.

The rotors look fine. Keep abusing them and keep inspecting them. Replace when the cracks start to connect or reach an edge. I use slotted rotors from LC motorsports.
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Originally Posted by dgm8138
engine braking

That's the last thing you want to do on the track.

The rotors look fine. Keep abusing them and keep inspecting them. Replace when the cracks start to connect or reach an edge. I use slotted rotors from LC motorsports.
The problem I had with the cross drilled rotors was the Tech Inspectors for different clubs. Some were okay (looking for connecting cracks, cracks to the edge, or really wide cracks) while others were overly stringent (anything over 7/32) which isn't a good thing to find out when arriving at the track (already paid, already packed up, already there, etc.). Beyond all the other advantages the solid rotors gave me peace of mind that I wouldn't get pulled out of a Tech Inspection.
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Originally Posted by Jabs1542
The problem I had with the cross drilled rotors was the Tech Inspectors for different clubs. Some were okay (looking for connecting cracks, cracks to the edge, or really wide cracks) while others were overly stringent (anything over 7/32) which isn't a good thing to find out when arriving at the track (already paid, already packed up, already there, etc.). Beyond all the other advantages the solid rotors gave me peace of mind that I wouldn't get pulled out of a Tech Inspection.

That is BS. If they have that requirement it needs to be stated on the tech form. Or was it and you just overlooked it?


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