jeremycliff

Thank you! Very much appreciated

TwinTurbo959

The owner's mechanic (seen kneeling down by the 959) got drunk and then went for a joy ride with this 959....he was seen doing donuts in a parking lot and the police were called..... a police chase ensued (there are photos of this) .... he lost control and the car flipped over. But the story does not end there.....the mechanic "claims" that the 959 had a brake failure and that is why he could not stop! C-R-I-M-I-N-A-L!! The car is currently with the police pending inspection and litigation.

The car's owner, who i am not at liberty to discuss, is a prominent collector. I will post updates as they occur.

-Ben

ps any 959 owner that would like to contact me regarding their car, please feel free to do so. I maintain a registry of all Porsche 959's and have access to parts and information.

TwinTurbo959

This photo (from left to right) shows the
(1) the 1985 959 Wind tunnel Study (Windkanal Studie) note: this was finalized in 1985, started development in 1982, this car has 408 PS, and capable of 300 km/h or 186 mph
(2) the 1983 IAA Prototype: Gruppe B Study, This car has 408 PS, capable of 300 km/h or 186 mph

and
(3) the 1985 959 production car... technically, one of the vorseries, or pre-production cars. Small detail points to the silver car being a pre-production car.. you can see it in this photo: (can anyone see why?)
This car has 450 PS and capable of 315 km/h or 196 mph






This shows how truly dynamic and amazing the 959 development was, (from left to right),
(4) the 1986 Paris-Dakar Rally winner (car #186) piloted by René Metge and co-driver Dominique Lemoyne. This car had 400 PS, and gear-limted to 210 km/h or 130 mph
and
(5) the 961 that finished the 1986 LeMans race first in class and 7th overall against cars in faster classes! (at the time of that race in 1986 it was all white, and raced with the number 180) Keep in mind that the 961 retained many of the road car mechanics including the four-wheel drive system!
Had 680 PS, capable of 340 km/h or 211 mph

Here is a photo of the 1986 LeMans car (which is the exact same car as the #203) and yes, it was competing with Group C cars to finish 7th overall piloted by René Metge and Claude Ballot-Léna:





(6) production version of the 959. This came in 3 different versions, Komfort, European-Sport, or USA-Sport. This particular one is a European-Sport Model, Rarest of the Rare. Only 8 in total produced. What made this car even rarer was that it came with the "Stage 2" upgrade (not the one that Canepa sells, and the Porsche Stage 2 system utilized the same turbos that were installed in the 961 race car). This upgrade bumped the power to 515 PS and was capable of 339 km/h or 210 mph

9:59

The silver 59 is missing the headlight washers and is lower then the delivered cars.


Hans.

Z356

***

Yes...It's a pre-production car because it lacks the mandated headlight washing pop-up system required for production vehicles at that time!





If I win a prize as a result of correctly answering this question, pm me so I can give you my Fed Ex address...



Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

PS By trying to get the pretty photos attached to my reply, Hans beat me to the prize! Välförtjänt Hans!
.

Notmelo

Eduardo: You've had the picture of te silver one for ions. Obviously, you just aren't on Rennlist as much as Hans. Time zones could be a factor.

9:59

You want an Picture for christmas, here is mine.


Hans.

Z356

Doug:

Hans beat me fair & square. Plus he got extra points for
pointing out that the pre-production cars were lower!

I admit it. I am getting slow in my old age...

I am still hopeful that TwinTurbo959 has a second
place winner prize in his bag of tricks!



Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

TwinTurbo959

Both correct.... There are a few other items that earlier pre-production cars had.

(1) different rear spoiler (changed in this pre-production car) as can be seen in this photo:
LEFT PICTURE: notice the lack of "Gurney Flap" and the thickness of the profile. note: the exhaust tips were added by Brumos Porsche
RIGHT PICTURE: production car




(2a) different wheels (missing in this pre-production car, not all pre-production car had this), and you can see in this photo. note: the hubcap on this wheel is from the production car which is why it does not fit:


(2b)the reason for this wheel was most likely to include the "brake vane":

NYC123

here is an interesting one.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/cr...ess-77504.html

928cs

I have also seen some 959 without left hatch for the hydraulic system. These are cars without the hydraulic suspension leveling system, aren't they?

It seems that the pre-production 1985 cars are in fact 930s, according to their VINs.
A nice example:
http://www.rmsothebys.com/mo13/monte...rserie/1061222

TwinTurbo959

Yes, the "European Sport" versions did not have the hydraulic lifting system, so there was no need for the flap to give access to the filling port.

The "American Sport" 959's did not have the lifting system either and in addition, did not have the Dampening adjustment system (this was retained on the european sports).

Also, all pre-production 959's or vorseries cars, were picked off of the 930 assembly line and repurposed as prototype 959 cars...

928cs

Do you know which ones are the "Euro" sport?

I only know one of them, the red with white rims of the museum, and even this one, I don't know its VIN.
If I'm correct, this was a press car, registration S-JD 5605.
No rear seats, manual windows, one side mirror, no AC, no hydraulic suspension, ...
What a car!

TwinTurbo959

There are 8 European Sports
Colors included: Red, Graphite, and White
included hydraulic dampening system, single switch on center console
no hydraulic lifting system, no flap on left rear fender
manual windows
no roll bar, full door pockets
front seats had cloth and leather, optional leather lightweight manual seat
no rear seat
no A/C
no power door locks
had radio
optional right side mirror

According to "official" Porsche information there are 30 USA Sports
Colors included: Red or White
no hydraulic dampening system, no switches on center console
no hydraulic lifting system, no flap on left rear fender
power windows
leather-wrapped roll bar, with cut door pockets
front seats had cloth and leather, no other optional seats
no rear seat
no A/C
no power door locks
no radio
optional right side mirror

928cs

if the US Sport are easy to find, wp0zzz95zjs905001 to 5029 to my knowledge (29 made), the Euro Sport are much more difficult to identify because their VINs are certainly mixed with the "regular" comfort.

The US have a complete roll cage and Autoflug harnesses.

Here is the last one produced:
http://www.kidston.com/kidston-cars/...sche-959-Sport