"New" Autobild video -- Carrera GT "vs" GT2 RS
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Wordsmith
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"New" Autobild video -- Carrera GT "vs" GT2 RS
I was going to give this thread a clever title like:
"What happens if you give a 997 911 the power to go faster than a Carrera GT?"
(answer: you still prefer the Carrera GT outright)
or
"Dear Mr Röhrl, what is your job title at Porsche?"
(answer: "Legend")
No need. A little fun track time at the factory circuit and nice visuals of a red (PTS or Guards, hard to say, I imagine it's a well known factory car and someone will know for sure.) There's a little fun wheel-to-side at the 3:00 mark. Some very odd audio in the closing seconds, but no matter.
Of course we all know the GT2 RS is a tad quicker. Most of a decade further development since the Carrera GT, and the stability electronics, refined technology and materials, all add up to far more "accessible" performance in the modern 911 platform than the hair-trigger, razor's edge envelope of the Carrera GT.
Sure enough, if you want to let the car do the driving, the GT2 RS is a prodigious source of bragging rights to lap times, though in modern 911 history, it will be given only a secondary place mention as the blustering, muscle-bound point-and-squirt slugger, next to the sublime balance and flawless power of the GT3 RS 4.0. If you want to challenge yourself to drive in the high stakes game of analog machinery and driver talent, the Carrera GT is the pinnacle.
Even my limited understanding of German didn't lose the message in the translation. It would be great if someone could share a fluent "human" translation of the dialog.
ps. Thanks to those who've shared other Carrera GT videos.
"What happens if you give a 997 911 the power to go faster than a Carrera GT?"
(answer: you still prefer the Carrera GT outright)
or
"Dear Mr Röhrl, what is your job title at Porsche?"
(answer: "Legend")
No need. A little fun track time at the factory circuit and nice visuals of a red (PTS or Guards, hard to say, I imagine it's a well known factory car and someone will know for sure.) There's a little fun wheel-to-side at the 3:00 mark. Some very odd audio in the closing seconds, but no matter.
Of course we all know the GT2 RS is a tad quicker. Most of a decade further development since the Carrera GT, and the stability electronics, refined technology and materials, all add up to far more "accessible" performance in the modern 911 platform than the hair-trigger, razor's edge envelope of the Carrera GT.
Sure enough, if you want to let the car do the driving, the GT2 RS is a prodigious source of bragging rights to lap times, though in modern 911 history, it will be given only a secondary place mention as the blustering, muscle-bound point-and-squirt slugger, next to the sublime balance and flawless power of the GT3 RS 4.0. If you want to challenge yourself to drive in the high stakes game of analog machinery and driver talent, the Carrera GT is the pinnacle.
Even my limited understanding of German didn't lose the message in the translation. It would be great if someone could share a fluent "human" translation of the dialog.
ps. Thanks to those who've shared other Carrera GT videos.
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Drifting
It is an interesting comparison though. The GT2 RS and CGT have very similar performance, but are very different cars. The GT2 RS is more of a street car for the track. The CGT is more of a race car for the street.
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Of course the marketing (and some owners) would have you believe the GT2 RS is mind-altering military grade LSD combined with the sophistication of an excellent Bordeaux emerging at its peak after 30 years in the bottle.
That's not to be ignorant or deny the fact that a 911 capable of being fairly mentioned in the same sentence as the Carrera GT is a phenomenal vehicle, especially as a factory production car, warranty, luxury amenities and not even half the cost to purchase, perhaps one tenth the cost to own and operate.
sidenote: Oh crap. Am I seriously reminding myself of the GT2 RS. Dammit!
Keep in mind the 997.2 GT cars (I have the 3.8 RS, not the 2 RS) have a combination of SC/TC that really can drive the car. The cast of electronic safeties opposes all villains in the plot:
- If you flub a downshift, it will rev-match to prevent rear wheel lock-up.
- If you induce understeer, it will dial out the scrub with differential braking and it will anticipate and mitigate incipient transition to oversteer (by far and away the most common driver error that leads to 911's going off backwards into the scenery.)
- If you plant the throttle at any time, it will prevent wheel-spin and use braking and throttle to acceleration within traction limits (and consistent with steering angle.)
Certainly, for any driver without a lap record or two to their credit, there's never any advantage in turning off the SC/TC in its 997.2 version.
If we could retrofit 997.2 SC/TC ("PSM") to the Carrera GT, we might never lose another Carrera GT! : )