ADias

The fault is totally with the driver of the car in the back. No ifs or buts about it. You are correct that many drivers anticipate things about the car in the front... but they are totally wrong. This is a classic "maintain proper distance from the vehicle in front" straight from the driving rules book.

I'm always nervous when stopped at a light and see another car breathing my exhaust fumes - and not only when I drive the stick 11, also when I drive my large auto SUV. It's blatantly stupid what many so-called drivers do on the road and when stopped at a light.

ben in lj

never underestimate an insurance co (and especially a CA jury) to get to a resolution not as black and white.

ADias

Nothing surprises me when lawyers and jurys are involved. But that does not change the facts and the rules in the books. Unfortunately, these days, society seems to accept bending/violating rules instead of following them.

I'll tell you what... this country needs a proper driving education campaign and soon. Drivers see themselves as if piloting a video game seated on a couch and that is wrong. The AAA does nothing, but it really should do some serious driving education campaigns. In this country it is not (usually) speed that kills, it is the utter stupidity of drivers doing the most stupid things.

Dale Gribble

wait..how do u guys know that this is the 150,000$ repaired car? I don't believe it said so in the ebay page.

For 150,000$ its probably that dark grey one that hopped the curb that needs to be repaired.

Dan87951

I ran a carfax on it and it didn't even mention it had been in a accident.

ben in lj

because i live here and asked them!

as for disclosure in the ebay ad:

"On the first day of ownership, this Carrera GT was lightly hit in the left rear by a Chevrolet Suburban. The car was sent back to Pioneer Centres Porsche for repair. After disassembling the rear for inspection, the technicians discovered that the monocoque structure was NOT damaged and the car did NOT need to be returned to Porsche AG (Germany) for repairs. The car was fixed at Pioneer Centres Porsche. We have the repair bill, photos of the damaged GT, undamaged Suburban and a letter from the Porsche representative stating that the car was returned to "factory new" condition using all genuine Porsche parts"

ben in lj

carfax is a joke. it's only a starting point but in no way should you ever rely on it alone for fishy stuff and accident history.

Dale Gribble

[QUOTE=ben in lj]because i live here and asked them![QUOTE]

ah ok, gotcha.
wow...if that was 150k i can't imagine what that other one must cost to fix...geez..the price you pay for perfection in the hand of imperfect beings.

Ron_H

"I'll tell you what... this country needs a proper driving education campaign and soon. Drivers see themselves as if piloting a video game seated on a couch and that is wrong. The AAA does nothing, but it really should do some serious driving education campaigns. In this country it is not (usually) speed that kills, it is the utter stupidity of drivers doing the most stupid things." A. Dias

Tony, I couldn't agree more with you. It is all about taking responsibility rather than blaming "speed", which is relative. Hope you had a nice holiday.

Sobe

The more I read about this car the more I think this would be a difficult car to drive on U.S. roads with bad drivers , traffic and speed limits . Now there are 6 of them just on ebay ....... why is this car so available and selling for no more than list compared to car like the Enzo .

tarpon1

perhaps some, (not all) buyers underestimate the power of these cars and/or overestimate their own ability to handle them. i'm sure some buyers with a new influx of cash from whatever windfall immediately go toy shopping, tear the wrapping off and go play without reading the instructions. it would be similar to an intermediate buying top of the line racing skis and heading off to a double black diamond at whistler or ajax and heading downhill because they think the skis will do the work. these cars require respect and training. Carrera GT's, women, weapons...(they must all be handled with caution, for they can hurt you badly).

ben in lj

part of it is porsche is making nearly four times more of them than ferrari is of the enzo. part of it is that porsche didn't come out and firmly commit to "only" 1500 until recently which caused a lot of speculators and legitimate buyers to cancel their orders. part of it is a great # of the early allocations were speculators and pcar dealers who planned to speculate on making large $ over MSRP. when that didn't materialize, they dumped and/or cancelled their orders. i know of a dealer who put up 8 deposits with his own dough and doesn't plan to take any of the 8 cars thereby saying bye bye to his $400k. part of it is that porsches are actually driven (vs. say an enzo which i've only seen driving once in one of the top 5 cities in the country for enzo ownership and that one literally drove four houses down from his, turned around, and put it back in the garage!) and many owners are finding the cgt clutch to be difficult and the ride height to be problematic. part of it is the market is so soft because of many of the reasons above, people don't want to lose 35% of their money in 1 to 2 years ala MSRP buyers of GT2s.

Alienz

That's why they should have some kind of training at the dealership before they give the car to the customer. From what I heard the CGT clutch is not easy tog et used to.

ben in lj

it just took me a couple hundred miles and a couple days to stop stalling it. i stopped stalling it after like the 3rd day with the exception of once last thursday (almost a month in between stalls).

W8MM

Ben,

That makes it about as easy as my old '99 996C2 cab.

I used to stall it quite a bit while I was getting used to how little power was called up by the accelerator on tip-in.

After I began to use more gas, it decreased to about once per month -- those were mainly because of not remembering which car I was driving.