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pmacan 11-20-2013 05:40 PM

How many of you ordered Range Rover after seeing Macan?
 
Well I really have to see in person to figure out if there is anything more to appreciate. It looks good but doesn't stand out. Interior is nice but we have been seeing this theme for a while now. And finally when you get all excited about the 50k price (in US) and start configuring it leaves Evoque's territory and lands in Range Rover Sport's.
I am wondering if anyone made the that comparison and deciding to go with Range Rover instead of Macan?
Wrong question to ask in a Porsche forum ? :)

mile2424 11-20-2013 05:54 PM

I am sure if you drive both the RR and the Porsche back to back, you will be coming back to this forum more often :) I can't say I have driven a RR or the Evoque, but I would imagine the Macan handling and feel to be pretty nice considering how the larger Cayenne and Panamera drive.

Needsdecaf 11-20-2013 06:34 PM

RRS is much bigger.

clutchplate 11-20-2013 07:38 PM

I didn't order a R.R. but decided to keep mine rather than order the Macan. I'm sticking with my 981 for a sports car and R.R. for SUV rather than try to combine the two into one. I like the Macan but not sure I love it.

LexVan 11-20-2013 07:45 PM

Most people who buy the RR will also buy the Macan so they have something to drive while it's in the shop.

Sonnen Porsche 11-20-2013 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by LexVan (Post 10920656)
Most people who buy the RR will also buy the Macan so they have something to drive while it's in the shop.

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/s...aughing011.gif

As somebody that worked at Range Rover for a few years that is an accurate statement.... http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/s...aughing018.gif

DrJay 11-20-2013 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by LexVan (Post 10920656)
Most people who buy the RR will also buy the Macan so they have something to drive while it's in the shop.

yeah but damn the RRs are sexy...

nyca 11-20-2013 09:51 PM

Which RR? The Evoque is small and underpowered. The Sport is alot more expensive then a Macan, but its bigger, but it looks alot like a Ford Explorer. That said, the Rover interiors however are some of the best in the industry. Are RRs really that bad mechanically still?

clutchplate 11-20-2013 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by LexVan (Post 10920656)
Most people who buy the RR will also buy the Macan so they have something to drive while it's in the shop.

Two years running my R.R. without a single issue. Not one. My 981 on the other hand has been towed twice to the dealer so spare me.

tcsracing1 11-21-2013 02:25 AM

40k miles on my 2008 RR HSE, no problems.

The RR is big.
I am interested in a Macan for another location where small is key. (big city, little condo)

Im not really an Evoque kinda guy for a longer term automobile…
If RR would make a new Defender for the North American Market it would be in my driveway.

997rs4.0 11-21-2013 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by LexVan (Post 10920656)
Most people who buy the RR will also buy the Macan so they have something to drive while it's in the shop.

You are so right!

tcsracing1 11-21-2013 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by LexVan (Post 10920656)
Most people who buy the RR will also buy the Macan so they have something to drive while it's in the shop.

:roflmao:

500 11-21-2013 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by clutchplate (Post 10921007)
Two years running my R.R. without a single issue. Not one. My 981 on the other hand has been towed twice to the dealer so spare me.

The reality is many people will have great ownership experiences with Land Rover vehicles, and some will not. Same with Porsche, and every other car. MOST cars these days are quite reliable. Over a statistically relevant sample, there are differences though. The latest JD Power three-year dependability study has Porsche in position number two with 94 problems per 100 vehicles (Lexus is number one).

Land Rover is 33rd (and last) with 220 problems per 100 vehicles. This study is for 2010 vehicles. Although the JD Power reliability study has limitations, it is one of the more impartial sources of information as it does not suffer from self-selection bias.

So, it appears that a Land Rover product (at least of 2010 vintage) may have a greater chance of issues than other cars, but I still think that the majority of owners will have pretty good experiences. Your own experience is an example of this.

As for the original question: I am not ordering either a Macan or RR (we recently got a Cayenne GTS). However, if my wife hadn’t been keen on a larger vehicle, I would have waited for the Macan. I think Porsche has nailed it and this would be my personal choice for an SUV, as I like the lower, more compact layout.

If you prefer the RR, definitely go for that though. Not my style (too boxy/high), but it has a great interior and is a classy vehicle.

clutchplate 11-21-2013 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by 500_19B (Post 10921910)
The reality is many people will have great ownership experiences with Land Rover vehicles, and some will not. Same with Porsche, and every other car. MOST cars these days are quite reliable. Over a statistically relevant sample, there are differences though. The latest JD Power three-year dependability study has Porsche in position number two with 94 problems per 100 vehicles (Lexus is number one).

Land Rover is 33rd (and last) with 220 problems per 100 vehicles. This study is for 2010 vehicles. Although the JD Power reliability study has limitations, it is one of the more impartial sources of information as it does not suffer from self-selection bias.

So, it appears that a Land Rover product (at least of 2010 vintage) may have a greater chance of issues than other cars, but I still think that the majority of owners will have pretty good experiences. Your own experience is an example of this.

As for the original question: I am not ordering either a Macan or RR (we recently got a Cayenne GTS). However, if my wife hadn’t been keen on a larger vehicle, I would have waited for the Macan. I think Porsche has nailed it and this would be my personal choice for an SUV, as I like the lower, more compact layout.

If you prefer the RR, definitely go for that though. Not my style (too boxy/high), but it has a great interior and is a classy vehicle.

Fair and well stated comments. My R.R. has logged around 1,000 miles of extreme off road driving and at first glance the Macan appears to have lower ground clearance so I'm not sure it would cut it climbing mountains. I could be wrong but the Macan appears to be a performance SUV first, a Boxster with 4 doors which is great if you don't go off roading. I was hoping the Macan would be more striking but to me it looks like a baby Cayenne mated with the smaller Infinity SUV. I may change my mind after seeing it in person but so far the looks didn't sway me. Then there's price which starts at about the same as the Cayenne. The Macan may be perceived as more "entry level" because of size but it actually won't be and a well loaded car will be in the $70,000 range so there's that. My first impression is the overall package considering price is good, but not great.

Serge944 11-21-2013 01:15 PM

Porsche is laughing all the way to the bank with this one. It's definitely not an entry level car and priced above both the Cayenne and a Boxster.

The 50k base price is pretty deceptive, because you REALLY don't want this car in base form. Decently equipped, you're looking at 65k for the S and 85k for the turbo. ...for a compact SUV.

As much as I really like this car, based on how much it costs, here are my 2 cents:

The Macan is not a car for existing Porsche owners, but for those who have always aspired to own a Porsche. They are active or have a small family, so a Boxster won't fit the size requirement. They are also fairly young (or feel young), so the Cayenne is just not sporty enough. They can only own one car to do everything.

If you already have a 911 and want to add a utility vehicle to your stable...your money is better spent on something other than a Macan.


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