ozziegt

Is there any resource which goes over the technical differences between the GTS and Turbo suspension? My understanding is that the difference is all in the programming, so does that mean that the actual suspension parts are the same? Is it just lower with a tweaked PASM tune?

rasetsu

You'd have to spec a Turbo with air suspension and PASM which aren't standard or get a Turbo PP which, I'm pretty sure, has the same set up as the GTS standard.

ozziegt

Sure, so my Turbo has PASM and AS, but I don't think I will get GTS handling just by adding some lowering links right? So I am wondering are there any parts differences or is it all done by software?

rasetsu

I read from a car magazine before that the GTS has unique sway bars not on any other model. This was before the Turbo PP came out. Not sure about the accuracy of that though as the only thing I've seen on Porsche's web page is that the GTS and T-PP have their lowest air suspension setting set 10mm lower than other trims when equipped with air.

CarGuyNVA

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redmonkey928

Having had a GTS and an S both with PASM w/air suspension, and Sport Plus - there is minimal differences between them and the handling feedback is nearly identical between them. GTS has a bit lighter which would mostly likely come from the sway bars as mentioned above. But in terms of suspension feedback, minimal at best.

Need4S

rasetsu

No, the Turbo has a 3.2L V6 versus the 3.0L V6 in the GTS. A Cobb tuned GTS will produce approximately 440hp depending on the octane in your area which would in theory be better than the Turbo's 400hp but a car's output isn't just about peak horsepower. I'm not sure where the Turbo's torque comes on and whether a Cobb tuned GTS moves the torque curve earlier enough to match a Turbo's but it would be back to square one if comparing a Turbo with a Cobb tune as well.

So I wouldn't use the word "superior". But I do believe the GTS with a Cobb tune is the sweet spot so long as you aren't worried about the warranty on your ECU.

Dr. Ferdinand

Correction above - the Turbo is a 3.6ltr, not 3.2 Bespoke Porsche engine not used elsewhere (and likely last yr of production as the Macan is moving to Audi-sourced engines, including the 2.9V6 in the face-lifted Turbo).

To me the best of ALL words (highest output and best handling) is the combination of Macan Turbo + Cobb Tune + H&R Air Suspension Module. Running this exact setup presently and car feels far more composed and handling is noticeably improved over the GTS (sits lower from the factory H&R setting than a GTS and can in fact be lowered an additional 30mm).

So no compromises needed - highest power output available via Cobb on a Macan + improved handing dynamics, ride, and aesthetic look!

rasetsu

Yes, thank you for the correction on the engine displacement! Been reading too much about the Audi 3.2L.

You forgot about the Turbo Performance Package. That with a Cobb tune and air suspension module would be the top dog.

Dr. Ferdinand

Perhaps, I didn't forget about it, just not sure we can definitively make that statement.

For one, Cobb does not offer a tune specifically for the PP (as far as I am aware, and not currently listed on their website so I'd say none is available). And if they did, I would love to see the results, as more than likely the current Base T vs T PP delta (40 crank HP) would be netted out as likely their full curve would look 1-1 (in fact there will be a higher peak delta on the T vs PP).

Given relatively small # of PPs, I doubt Cobb will spend the R&D to develop something just for that platform as it essentially is a T mapping 'upped' by the factory with a tad more boost.

rasetsu

True. Turbo PP is pretty much a factory tuned Turbo and Cobb likely won't spend R&D resources to add to it due to the small numbers of them out there.

Todd B

For the Macan this is actually not true. According to PET, the Turbo (when equipped with the air suspension/pasm) and GTS sway bars/air shocks/springs are all the same parts. There might be different software/tuning, but the hardware is the same.