GTS Suspension vs Turbo
12-28-2018, 05:45 PM
#16
Drifting
Sorry, according to what I’ve read the Macan GTS does have some unique suspension components. It wasn’t a lot, but there were one or two components that were GTS-specific (I believe it was rear sway bar and bushings?). Someone who has access to Porsche part #s could do a little research to verify.
12-28-2018, 07:00 PM
#17
Sorry, according to what I’ve read the Macan GTS does have some unique suspension components. It wasn’t a lot, but there were one or two components that were GTS-specific (I believe it was rear sway bar and bushings?). Someone who has access to Porsche part #s could do a little research to verify.
12-28-2018, 07:46 PM
#18
Drifting
So when I read things like “...with the overall setup being 0.4 inch lower and about 10 percent firmer than... There’s also a slightly stiffer rear anti-roll bar...” (from C&D’s review of the 2017 GTS) perhaps it’s inaccurate, and the differences are due solely to GTS-specific S/W tuning.
I assume S/W tuning also accounts for the GTS’s 10mm lower ride height. Who really knows (the Porsche engineers do!)
12-30-2018, 02:36 PM
#19
Interesting. I’m not familiar with the acronym “PET” but I assume it’s Porsche’s parts inventory tool?
So when I read things like “...with the overall setup being 0.4 inch lower and about 10 percent firmer than... There’s also a slightly stiffer rear anti-roll bar...” (from C&D’s review of the 2017 GTS) perhaps it’s inaccurate, and the differences are due solely to GTS-specific S/W tuning.
I assume S/W tuning also accounts for the GTS’s 10mm lower ride height. Who really knows (the Porsche engineers do!)
PET is the Porsche parts catalog per model. PET is short for Porsche ErsatzTeile
Porsche has been good about releasing the catalogs for the different models in a timely fashion. You can download it from the Porsche site, at this location. https://www.porsche.com/usa/accessor...artscatalogue/
I think you referencing this review https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...tested-reviews
If so they are comparing it to the Macan S and not the Turbo, which would explain why the parts for the sway bars are the same for the GTS and turbo, but different part numbers for the S.
"Porsche’s subtle GTS treatment is more focused on overall driving pleasure than on outright speed. Standard Macan GTS fare includes electronically adaptive dampers, a stiffer rear anti-roll bar, larger front brakes borrowed from the Macan Turbo, and an air-spring suspension that’s slightly lower and stiffer than that of the 340-hp Macan S"
I don't know and can't tell from the PET if the software is different but the air suspension/PASM in the GTS, would allow Porsche to change the ride hight and also adjust the way the shocks responded. Sort of like buying a DSC module for a 911 or Cayman.
Porsche marketing is always a bit cloudy on the details.
12-30-2018, 09:10 PM
#20
Drifting
Interesting stuff. Appreciate the additional info.
Also if that’s the case, one could assume that an ‘S’ model equipped with the optional PASM & air suspension would likely have the same suspension hardware as the GTS and Turbo models. Suspension software is likely where the differences exist between the models for suspension fine tuning.
Also if that’s the case, one could assume that an ‘S’ model equipped with the optional PASM & air suspension would likely have the same suspension hardware as the GTS and Turbo models. Suspension software is likely where the differences exist between the models for suspension fine tuning.
12-30-2018, 10:42 PM
#21
Interesting stuff. Appreciate the additional info.
Also if that’s the case, one could assume that an ‘S’ model equipped with the optional PASM & air suspension would likely have the same suspension hardware as the GTS and Turbo models. Suspension software is likely where the differences exist between the models for suspension fine tuning.
Also if that’s the case, one could assume that an ‘S’ model equipped with the optional PASM & air suspension would likely have the same suspension hardware as the GTS and Turbo models. Suspension software is likely where the differences exist between the models for suspension fine tuning.
Porsche doesn't make anything simple with these different variations.
12-31-2018, 12:48 PM
#22
Drifting
Interesting to know. Porsche isn't the only one with convoluted configurations/variations. I've seen this with other manufacturers as well over the years. Thanks again for the additional info. As a long time auto enthusiast, this stuff interests me.
01-01-2019, 11:59 PM
#23
Racer
Thread Starter
Also thanks for the link to the PET! That will be handy in the future for sure.
01-02-2019, 01:19 PM
#24
Drifting
01-03-2019, 09:58 PM
#25
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My '15 turbo had it as standard and I don't see why Porsche would drop it from that trim level.
01-04-2019, 12:17 PM
#26
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Anyone that wants it can buy the retrofit through Suncoast (or your dealer can do it himself, basically you pay for the software license), IIRC cost is around $350.
01-04-2019, 05:01 PM
#27
Drifting
Yes, good point, there are many things you can retrofit to these vehicles after delivery. But the original discussion centered around the differences between the GTS and Turbo standard/default suspension setups and how they differ as spec’ed and delivered from Porsche.
01-07-2019, 10:23 AM
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01-07-2019, 11:37 PM
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01-07-2019, 11:39 PM
#30
Racer
Thread Starter
There are other factors which could contribute to the different steering feel (tire type, wheel sizes, PASM, lower CG, etc), so I wouldn't necessarily chalk it up to the PSP just yet.