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I would not say the car has too much power, i have a turbo with cobb tune currently and the acceleration to 80 is super fast, but above that the car falls off. Not saying i drive it above that often but my other daily is a S65 amg which has trouble putting the power down but on the highway its in its own world.
And whats this news of an RS macan?
Sorry, that's just my bad sense of humor after reading all of the angst in the GT thread. But I would love a more hard core Macan. 500hp, pdk-s, pdcc.
Oh no Mark, don't let the GT thread see this. The center locks alone will cause a riot to break out.
I don't need the CLs or the fender vents but how about a trans-axle to better balance the weight. Jag will soon have the F-Pace SVR, Alpha the Stelvio QF, and M-B the GLC63.
I've always like the look of these. BUddies have the turbos, they fast and nice.
My cayenne is in the shop and i have a macan base loaner. Basic options. 53k MSRP I think?
Thoughts: drives OK, steering feels a little numb, turn in is lazy, but feels solid, needs power big time, i want to drive around with sport on all the time, turbo lag, PDK is a good trans, interior feels cheap for the price point, decent rear trunk space, rear seat space tight, quiet, gets worse mileage than my cayenne diesel and feels slower. Newer PCM with the Apple Play is pretty good and standard radio sounds decent.
If i buy one of these for the wife It'll have to be a full leather spec'd S or higher for sure.
i had one as a loaner so i agree with you 99% ....i disagree 1 % because my wife would not want one ....power wise it is a dawg
I've always like the look of these. BUddies have the turbos, they fast and nice.
My cayenne is in the shop and i have a macan base loaner. Basic options. 53k MSRP I think?
Thoughts: drives OK, steering feels a little numb, turn in is lazy, but feels solid, needs power big time, i want to drive around with sport on all the time, turbo lag, PDK is a good trans, interior feels cheap for the price point, decent rear trunk space, rear seat space tight, quiet, gets worse mileage than my cayenne diesel and feels slower. Newer PCM with the Apple Play is pretty good and standard radio sounds decent.
If i buy one of these for the wife It'll have to be a full leather spec'd S or higher for sure.
Just as a clarification, are you making those comments based on how your Cayenne drives? I am not sure I agree with some of those comments. It's definitely more nimble than Cayenne and I don't think the turbo lag is that bad. S models and up won't disappoint you in terms of power.
I personally think the interior is better than MB or BMW. I just can't get used to MB interior.
I've driven other Macan models and if I get to choose again, I'd choose GTS.
I had a base Macan as a loaner a couple days ago when mine was in for its annual oil service and state safety inspection. I was surprised how good it is. Now, it's not as nice as my Turbo with all its options but still a very nice riding and driving car. I would be happy with one.
But I'm happier with my Turbo.
ETA: I'm glad I opted for the no-cost "smoker's package". That hole in the center console bugged me to no end.
Just as a clarification, are you making those comments based on how your Cayenne drives? I am not sure I agree with some of those comments. It's definitely more nimble than Cayenne and I don't think the turbo lag is that bad. S models and up won't disappoint you in terms of power.
I personally think the interior is better than MB or BMW. I just can't get used to MB interior.
I've driven other Macan models and if I get to choose again, I'd choose GTS.
For clarity, i'm talking about a base macan i've been driving for 2 weeks not. Not an S, GTS, or Turbo, not a comparison. And not a comparison to my cayenne.
The interior is definitely not nicer than my wife's M235I (54k msrp). That car has leather door panels and nice stitching, excellent seats, and a dash and controls that feel nicer than the Porsche.And the car has serious *****. it's fast.
As far as nimble, maybe, but, the turn in is lazy compared to the cayenne AND the brake is too soft up top unlike every porsche I have which has great bite up top in the pedal. You really have to get into the pedal.
Originally Posted by Loess
I picked up a Macan GTS a couple weeks ago. It's a nice daily driver but I wouldn't want much less horsepower (for fun not necessity). I would look hard at an RS3 over a base macan, although I didn't test drive the base.
I rode in a buddies new SQ5, and for the price i would absolutely get it over the Macan. ITs faster, way nicer interior, better features, and looks good (not better or worse).
Macan is a good car, but the base has my head scratching 'why bother' other than porsche label. The S, GTS, Turbo I get, those are substantially different cars.
Originally Posted by El Sapo
I think a comparison like that should at least be at the same price point. Around 65-70K? A diesel Cayenne lines up with a Macan GTS. I took my Macan GTS in for service and got a diesel Cayenne......
See above, not a comparison to the cayenne. Your Macan GTS won't tow my track car trailer either... different cars.
I agree that the turn in of the Macan is less sharp than the Cayenne. I drove a base Cayenne for a loaner and thought that the Cayenne's steering felt quicker. The Macan is still an utter blast to drive, and it was just me being ultra discerning.
I wonder if the steering can be adjusted with the PIWIS? I believe the speed assisted steering feel can be modified.
For clarity, i'm talking about a base macan i've been driving for 2 weeks not. Not an S, GTS, or Turbo, not a comparison. And not a comparison to my cayenne.
The interior is definitely not nicer than my wife's M235I (54k msrp). That car has leather door panels and nice stitching, excellent seats, and a dash and controls that feel nicer than the Porsche.And the car has serious *****. it's fast.
I rode in a buddies new SQ5, and for the price i would absolutely get it over the Macan. ITs faster, way nicer interior, better features, and looks good (not better or worse).
You want to critique the base model and that's cool, but you say you aren't comparing it to other cars, then in the next paragraph you compare it to other cars.
The comfort I find in my Macan is knowing that Porsche wanted to build a car that would be attractive to a segment of car buyers that is larger than the buyers they typically attract to their sports cars. If they want to build 20 different versions of the 911, they need to have something that brings in the income for them to do that. I don't think the original Macan was envisioned with a 440 HP turbo, I think it was conceptualized with 4 cylinder engine. So all that time and design went into the Base model. Sure you can make a Macan really bad ***, (Turbo) but my *** tells me the Base is exactly what Porsche wanted a Macan to be
You want to critique the base model and that's cool, but you say you aren't comparing it to other cars, then in the next paragraph you compare it to other cars.
The comfort I find in my Macan is knowing that Porsche wanted to build a car that would be attractive to a segment of car buyers that is larger than the buyers they typically attract to their sports cars. If they want to build 20 different versions of the 911, they need to have something that brings in the income for them to do that. I don't think the original Macan was envisioned with a 440 HP turbo, I think it was conceptualized with 4 cylinder engine. So all that time and design went into the Base model. Sure you can make a Macan really bad ***, (Turbo) but my *** tells me the Base is exactly what Porsche wanted a Macan to be
I rode in a buddies new SQ5, and for the price i would absolutely get it over the Macan.
I've driven several Q5 flavors (not the SQ5) and you couldn't *give* me one to own.
The pedals, steering wheel and driver's seat do not line up on an axis. After a few minutes driving I feel like I'm being 'adjusted' by a Sadistic Chiropractor.
Maybe this has been corrected in the last model year or two. But, at this point I don't GAF.
I've driven several Q5 flavors (not the SQ5) and you couldn't *give* me one to own.
The pedals, steering wheel and driver's seat do not line up on an axis. After a few minutes driving I feel like I'm being 'adjusted' by a Sadistic Chiropractor.
Maybe this has been corrected in the last model year or two. But, at this point I don't GAF.
I just rode in it as a passenger. It was good. Didn't drive, but you could be right.
But let me clarify my point: I would get the SQ5 over the BASE macan, at that price point. Just on amenities, because lets face it, if you're getting the base car you're not really seeking driving or power perfection. And once you take a macan and get the bigger motor, better seats, nicer interior, pasm, etc it's a very different car.
Didn't realize I'd spark such a nerve, I think my feedback was balanced (good and bad), and was specifically targeted at the base motor car with near zero options.
I do stand by my opinion, that, while porsche has said "hey you can get a porsche for under 50k" that I'm not really sure you'd want to....
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