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awew911 04-11-2022 09:30 AM

992 Cup Experience
 
I picked up a 992 Cup that has been previously raced in the PCCD. Once receiving it, I went ahead and ordered the ABS system. This also required replacing the rear master cylinder as part of the install. I also enabled the traction control functionality.

Took the car this past weekend to Sebring. I've been driving the 991.2 Cup for the past two years, so I had a good baseline for comparison.

The 992 Cup is more compliant, less twitchy, more refined, and slightly more insulating than the 991.2. It has a LOT more front grip, of which I haven't even come close to exploring the limits. The 991.2 Cup is more visceral and more engaging. The 992 is easier to make go fast. The 991.2 takes more work.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...106bf7555a.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...614163e122.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...af60b0f4aa.jpg


I'm keeping both cars (991.2 and 992) and will alternate between events.

Note that I am not a racer. I just do track days. I do all the work myself (which is half the fun) and very far below what the car can do and below my own perceived limits.

Here's a video from Sebring and I know all the places I could go faster, brake later, get on throttle sooner, etc. The car is fun to drive. I was in the 2:09-2:10 range by end of my first weekend with the car. I'm no pro and will never be.


RSA964993 04-11-2022 01:27 PM

Looks and sounds awesome!

redmonkey928 04-11-2022 04:11 PM

That is great, an awesome to hear some feedback on the differences between the two generations. Enjoy the heck out of both!

carbondan 04-11-2022 07:26 PM

Awesome! That car looks much more serious and menacing.
How do the laptimes compare to a GT3 class car?

awew911 04-11-2022 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by RSA964993 (Post 18082108)
Looks and sounds awesome!


Originally Posted by redmonkey928 (Post 18082497)
That is great, an awesome to hear some feedback on the differences between the two generations. Enjoy the heck out of both!

Thank you both!


Originally Posted by carbondan (Post 18082986)
Awesome! That car looks much more serious and menacing.
How do the laptimes compare to a GT3 class car?

Thanks Dan. Was definitely more cautious on my first session. Got more and more comfortable as sessions went on. With regards to lap times, well, pros are doing 2:01 to 2:03 at Sebring. I'm good for 2:10-2:11. The gap is talent. :) So the car is far more capable than I. But I don't care. I'm having fun.

LionelB 04-12-2022 03:48 AM

Congrats, very nice. I heard last week at the track from a race team running about 20 Cups that the 992 running costs are around 50% higher than the 991. Would be curious to see if you see this as well.

awew911 04-12-2022 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by LionelB (Post 18083703)
Congrats, very nice. I heard last week at the track from a race team running about 20 Cups that the 992 running costs are around 50% higher than the 991. Would be curious to see if you see this as well.

At my level of track days, consumable are not much more expensive. Consumables (brakes / tires) are about the same price. My tires will last longer (I don't care if I'm off 2 seconds). I'm not sure where 50% comes from - that would be huge and very noticeable. I do all my work myself, so that probably helps since my only cost is related to parts (other than motor / gear box usage depreciation).

LionelB 04-13-2022 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by awew911 (Post 18084265)
At my level of track days, consumable are not much more expensive. Consumables (brakes / tires) are about the same price. My tires will last longer (I don't care if I'm off 2 seconds). I'm not sure where 50% comes from - that would be huge and very noticeable. I do all my work myself, so that probably helps since my only cost is related to parts (other than motor / gear box usage depreciation).

Yeah, I was not sure either but they are keeping a running tab on all the cars and I was a bit surprised as well.

awew911 04-13-2022 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by LionelB (Post 18085805)
Yeah, I was not sure either but they are keeping a running tab on all the cars and I was a bit surprised as well.

I'd be curious to see that tab. Maybe they are replacing things that I should be as well. I've heard the rotors / pads on the 992 (Brembo / Pagid) don't last as long as on the 991.2 (PFC). I suspect they put far more time on the cars during PCCNA / PCCD than I do. I'm keeping a diary on maintenance and track events, so we'll see.

93 FireHawk 968 04-18-2022 05:57 PM

Thanks for the sharing the insights!

CRex 04-19-2022 09:06 AM

Congrats on the new car and hope you have a lot of fun with it! You must be one of the very first guys in the US to own a 992 Cup free and clear of the official series!!

awew911 04-19-2022 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by CRex (Post 18096529)
Congrats on the new car and hope you have a lot of fun with it! You must be one of the very first guys in the US to own a 992 Cup free and clear of the official series!!

Thanks! I know of about 4 or 5 of them here now. My buddy has one as well and we've been doing the same events. Porsche Motorsports has been good supporting us hobbyists.

saksride 01-27-2024 01:54 PM

I just bought one, getting in by end of Feb 2024... Can't wait.
Have no idea what I'm getting into... But I love to drive on the track, and this car is a bucket list item.
So, I'll be doing it all myself, from a couple of people I've talked to its all pretty simple and similar until you get to the Engine/Tranny rebuilds.

Nizer 01-28-2024 02:27 PM

Nothing like driving a Cup but pretty amazing when you think about the fact that the new GT3 RS street car can do an easy 2:10.4 on street tires.


claykos 01-28-2024 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Nizer (Post 19245846)
Nothing like driving a Cup but pretty amazing when you think about the fact that the new GT3 RS street car can do an easy 2:10.4 on street tires.

https://youtu.be/c7EPyltEB04?si=pRbcBD1e7TcnCXXP

Computers sure have come a long way in the last 15 years.....

Maybe the 2034 gt3rs will have an autopilot feature where you just ride along for a 2:04 at Sebring :roflmao:


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