Ceramic insulators brake calipers
11-25-2018, 03:46 PM
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Ceramic insulators brake calipers
The ceramic cylinders that are located in between the calipers and the pads, I would need some new, but cannot find them anywhere.
Help would be great!
It is 6-pot 350mm brakes on my 996 CUP 2004.
Help would be great!
It is 6-pot 350mm brakes on my 996 CUP 2004.
11-25-2018, 04:59 PM
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I have been looking for a 38mm one myself. Turns out you have to buy new pistons in a caliper rebuild kit to get them. At ~$400 per caliper.
11-26-2018, 01:43 PM
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Yes, we would be interested in carrying them in the store. Even if we have to have some made up.
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Ed
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11-26-2018, 06:05 PM
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Yes, we would be interested in carrying them in the store. Even if we have to have some made up.
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11-26-2018, 10:45 PM
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I would rather have the ceramics to help isolate the fluid in the caliper from the pads. I have thought about experimenting with some materials, but would rather try to find who Porsche gets the originals from.
To give you an idea,
Material Thermal Conductivity (W/m K)
Zirconia Ceramic 3
Carbon Steel 36-54
Aluminum 200
Stainless Steel 12-45
Titanium 19-23
Hastelloy 9
So, from the above chart, hastelloy would be a great choice compared to others. I know that others have used stainless, which is fine, and titanium (which is not as good as some of the stainless) but there is better choices at less money than titanium.
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To give you an idea,
Material Thermal Conductivity (W/m K)
Zirconia Ceramic 3
Carbon Steel 36-54
Aluminum 200
Stainless Steel 12-45
Titanium 19-23
Hastelloy 9
So, from the above chart, hastelloy would be a great choice compared to others. I know that others have used stainless, which is fine, and titanium (which is not as good as some of the stainless) but there is better choices at less money than titanium.
Thanks
Ed
Last edited by Ed@Demonspeed; 11-26-2018 at 11:53 PM.
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11-27-2018, 03:31 PM
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A good product design shall cover all aspects; cost, strength (durability), Property (heat factor), not just one (thermal conductivity in above comparison).
We also believe less components (one solid piece) is better than multiple piece (3 in OE construction) in overall performance and maintenance.
We also believe less components (one solid piece) is better than multiple piece (3 in OE construction) in overall performance and maintenance.
11-27-2018, 05:06 PM
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Good afternoon.
I agree with your statement that a good product design covers all aspects. As I am sure you know, you would also rank them with a priority number to develop the decision making process appropriately. And, in our case, in a commercial environment, you would then need to consider if a product is viable for production.
I did not make any statement above to be negative on any ones product. I am stating, as a user, not a retailer, that I am most comfortable with ceramic disk and the aluminum piston. After all, I am a racer first, and a retailer second. Also, I am the guy who has to get down there and bleed the brakes when needed.
Thanks
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I agree with your statement that a good product design covers all aspects. As I am sure you know, you would also rank them with a priority number to develop the decision making process appropriately. And, in our case, in a commercial environment, you would then need to consider if a product is viable for production.
I did not make any statement above to be negative on any ones product. I am stating, as a user, not a retailer, that I am most comfortable with ceramic disk and the aluminum piston. After all, I am a racer first, and a retailer second. Also, I am the guy who has to get down there and bleed the brakes when needed.
Thanks
Ed
11-27-2018, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RacingBrake
A good product design shall cover all aspects; cost, strength (durability), Property (heat factor), not just one (thermal conductivity in above comparison).
We also believe less components (one solid piece) is better than multiple piece (3 in OE construction) in overall performance and maintenance.
We also believe less components (one solid piece) is better than multiple piece (3 in OE construction) in overall performance and maintenance.
11-28-2018, 03:50 PM
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Our library collects some 180 different OE/Aftermarket calipers; including Brembo, Akebono, Sumitomo, Advics, Mando, AP, PBR etc. which allow us to have an in depth understanding of their respective designs and came up with a better design.
RB calipers are replacing OE Brembo calipers on these heavily tracked communities:
Nissan GTR
Mustang GT350
Corvett Z06/07
Camaro Z28
Last edited by RacingBrake; 11-29-2018 at 12:04 AM.
11-28-2018, 04:08 PM
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Is it those once we are talking about?, are they good for the 6-pot 350mm 2004 996CUP?
https://www.racingbrake.com/Piston-K...-p/bp-605p.htm
https://www.racingbrake.com/Piston-K...-p/bp-605p.htm
11-28-2018, 05:59 PM
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Is it those once we are talking about?, are they good for the 6-pot 350mm 2004 996CUP?
https://www.racingbrake.com/Piston-K...-p/bp-605p.htm
https://www.racingbrake.com/Piston-K...-p/bp-605p.htm
For example BP-605 is listed under 996 for 4 different models (including Cup)
https://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7498.htm
Same 6 pot caliper (although can be different in color) is also listed under
997.1 (4 models) https://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7499.htm
And
997.2 (1 model) https://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7500.htm
All above are sub-categories of 911
https://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7379.htm
11-28-2018, 06:30 PM
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Our Caliper P/N assignment:
Our rebuilt kit contents designation:
BP-605
B = Brembo (Caliper Mfgr)
P = Porsche (Car Mfgr)
6 = # of piston (6 pot)
05 = #5 of Porsche 6 pot calipers in our library
B = Brembo (Caliper Mfgr)
P = Porsche (Car Mfgr)
6 = # of piston (6 pot)
05 = #5 of Porsche 6 pot calipers in our library
Our rebuilt kit contents designation:
BP-605BSP
B = Boots (HT= High temperature blue boots)
S = Seals
P = Pistons
Since we implemented this easy ordering system, not only it provides consumers making right selection quickly and accurately, but also help to avoid confusion from car mfgr and dealer by dealing with VIN#, Year, and Model etc.
We don't just duplicate the parts like most aftermarket suppliers we make them better and last a lot longer than original with improved design and optimal material; As an example before we make the HT dust boots available track enthusiasts were frustrated by the consistent burnt out & cracked boots, and nowadays about 75% of Porsche customers are buying RB HT boots and running their brakes with higher confidence and lower maintenance.
Since we started shipping HT boots about 4/5 years ago, we haven't heard one single complaint of boots failure due to the heat, only very few due to contact with brake fluid.
B = Boots (HT= High temperature blue boots)
S = Seals
P = Pistons
Since we implemented this easy ordering system, not only it provides consumers making right selection quickly and accurately, but also help to avoid confusion from car mfgr and dealer by dealing with VIN#, Year, and Model etc.
We don't just duplicate the parts like most aftermarket suppliers we make them better and last a lot longer than original with improved design and optimal material; As an example before we make the HT dust boots available track enthusiasts were frustrated by the consistent burnt out & cracked boots, and nowadays about 75% of Porsche customers are buying RB HT boots and running their brakes with higher confidence and lower maintenance.
Since we started shipping HT boots about 4/5 years ago, we haven't heard one single complaint of boots failure due to the heat, only very few due to contact with brake fluid.
11-28-2018, 07:59 PM
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Our Caliper P/N assignment:
Our rebuilt kit contents designation:
BP-605
B = Brembo (Caliper Mfgr)
P = Porsche (Car Mfgr)
6 = # of piston (6 pot)
05 = #5 of Porsche 6 pot calipers in our library
B = Brembo (Caliper Mfgr)
P = Porsche (Car Mfgr)
6 = # of piston (6 pot)
05 = #5 of Porsche 6 pot calipers in our library
Our rebuilt kit contents designation:
BP-605BSP
B = Boots (HT= High temperature blue boots)
S = Seals
P = Pistons
Since we implemented this easy ordering system, not only it provides consumers making right selection quickly and accurately, but also help to avoid confusion from car mfgr and dealer by dealing with VIN#, Year, and Model etc.
We don't just duplicate the parts like most aftermarket suppliers we make them better and last a lot longer than original with improved design and optimal material; As an example before we make the HT dust boots available track enthusiasts were frustrated by the consistent burnt out & cracked boots, and nowadays about 75% of Porsche customers are buying RB HT boots and running their brakes with higher confidence and lower maintenance.
Since we started shipping HT boots about 4/5 years ago, we haven't heard one single complaint of boots failure due to the heat, only very few due to contact with brake fluid.
B = Boots (HT= High temperature blue boots)
S = Seals
P = Pistons
Since we implemented this easy ordering system, not only it provides consumers making right selection quickly and accurately, but also help to avoid confusion from car mfgr and dealer by dealing with VIN#, Year, and Model etc.
We don't just duplicate the parts like most aftermarket suppliers we make them better and last a lot longer than original with improved design and optimal material; As an example before we make the HT dust boots available track enthusiasts were frustrated by the consistent burnt out & cracked boots, and nowadays about 75% of Porsche customers are buying RB HT boots and running their brakes with higher confidence and lower maintenance.
Since we started shipping HT boots about 4/5 years ago, we haven't heard one single complaint of boots failure due to the heat, only very few due to contact with brake fluid.