WTB 996 CUP SHIFTER
08-31-2018, 09:16 PM
#16
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As in they sell the shifter unit as a whole? I bought one of their rebuild kits a couple of years ago and cannot find it. Wouldn’t mind a spare shifter mechanism so I can put my cup unit on the shelf.
08-31-2018, 11:23 PM
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The Numeric Shifter is not Garbage or a POS. I have many many satisfied customers. I hold extremely tight tolerances and all the action is on bearings. It is a Patented design. The housing is all billet aluminum and simply does not flex. I also use all Stainless steel hardware. You also have 3 different positions for shifter throw. There have been updates over the years to improve it. Specifically the bearings and shift lever. Years ago before I made the Numeric I tried to make a cheaper alternative to work with the 996 cup shifter and stock shifters. Once I felt the action on it I simply couldn't bring myself to manufacture it let alone sell it. The only difference between a 996 cup and stock is they use aluminum bushings rather than plastic and the throw is slightly shorter. My calculations about 15%. The tolerances are a lot looser and over time will become sloppy. Simply push and pull on your stock plastic shifter with some force and you will see how it flexes. I've thrown quite a few 996 Cup shifters and Stock shifters that I have taken out of customers cars and threw them in the trash.
you mean the throw on the stock 996 Gt3 is slightly shorter or the cup is shorter?
and personally haven’t tried numeric. But if I can’t find a brand new to slightly used cup shifter and am displeased with my 997 shifter (which I love in my dads 997.2 GT3) then I will look to numeric. I simply can’t speak on numeric I haven’t tried them. But all my buddies who have tried both prefer cup. Honestly it seems about split to me. Half telling me cup and half telling me numeric or BM or w.e. Else... so there’s gotta be something there. Just personal preference...
until I try for myself this will all just be hot air.
But appreciate the input! Enjoy your 3 day weekend friend!
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09-01-2018, 10:30 AM
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I think that you must be careful with any short shifter on 996 or 997 GT3's, it can be very notchy, read rifle action, and not to everyone's taste. They are fine on regular cars.
I've had the CAE shifter on a GT3 and now on a Spec Cayman and love it, but again, not everybody's cup of tea.
I had CAE cables until a few weeks ago, when I broke one; a fellow racer had a spare set of Numeric cables to get me back up and going. I can't speak to the Numeric shifter, but the cables are pretty great. Well built, beefy, and no nonsense.
I emailed CAE about the break, and they blamed it on rigging, which I don't buy; there is no real rigging involved. I have since tried to find out from them if I could buy a single cable to replace the broken one, but radio silence. It'll be Numeric cables for me from now on.
Oh, and I do have a spare cup shifter, but can't get myself to sell it, lol. sorry.
I've had the CAE shifter on a GT3 and now on a Spec Cayman and love it, but again, not everybody's cup of tea.
I had CAE cables until a few weeks ago, when I broke one; a fellow racer had a spare set of Numeric cables to get me back up and going. I can't speak to the Numeric shifter, but the cables are pretty great. Well built, beefy, and no nonsense.
I emailed CAE about the break, and they blamed it on rigging, which I don't buy; there is no real rigging involved. I have since tried to find out from them if I could buy a single cable to replace the broken one, but radio silence. It'll be Numeric cables for me from now on.
Oh, and I do have a spare cup shifter, but can't get myself to sell it, lol. sorry.
09-01-2018, 03:50 PM
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I think that you must be careful with any short shifter on 996 or 997 GT3's, it can be very notchy, read rifle action, and not to everyone's taste. They are fine on regular cars.
I've had the CAE shifter on a GT3 and now on a Spec Cayman and love it, but again, not everybody's cup of tea.
I had CAE cables until a few weeks ago, when I broke one; a fellow racer had a spare set of Numeric cables to get me back up and going. I can't speak to the Numeric shifter, but the cables are pretty great. Well built, beefy, and no nonsense.
I emailed CAE about the break, and they blamed it on rigging, which I don't buy; there is no real rigging involved. I have since tried to find out from them if I could buy a single cable to replace the broken one, but radio silence. It'll be Numeric cables for me from now on.
Oh, and I do have a spare cup shifter, but can't get myself to sell it, lol. sorry.
I've had the CAE shifter on a GT3 and now on a Spec Cayman and love it, but again, not everybody's cup of tea.
I had CAE cables until a few weeks ago, when I broke one; a fellow racer had a spare set of Numeric cables to get me back up and going. I can't speak to the Numeric shifter, but the cables are pretty great. Well built, beefy, and no nonsense.
I emailed CAE about the break, and they blamed it on rigging, which I don't buy; there is no real rigging involved. I have since tried to find out from them if I could buy a single cable to replace the broken one, but radio silence. It'll be Numeric cables for me from now on.
Oh, and I do have a spare cup shifter, but can't get myself to sell it, lol. sorry.
09-01-2018, 03:54 PM
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09-02-2018, 09:23 PM
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I had a Numeric briefly.Looks really cool .But it is not GTC3 legal.
But I really love the function first.
The single best thing you can do to a 996 cup.
Richard Westbrook raced a 6 cup in the UK Supercup. When we were chatting his strongest memory was crappy shifter!
But I really love the function first.
The single best thing you can do to a 996 cup.
Richard Westbrook raced a 6 cup in the UK Supercup. When we were chatting his strongest memory was crappy shifter!
09-05-2018, 11:51 AM
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One more vote for function first.IT IS A CUP(996) SHIFTER with upgraded bearing. Nothing better. Tried Numeric, very pretty, not gtc3 legal and has nose bearing issues even with the better bearing, I tossed mine.
09-06-2018, 02:46 AM
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Those with the FF shifter, are you upgrading your cup shifter with the FF kit or simply adding a whole new shifter already upgraded? I wonder if there is any difference between the cup shifter and a regular 996 shifter other than the bushings? If not it may be best to upgrade a non cup shifter and keep the unicorn cup shifter for a rainy day? I regret selling my new spare cup shifter last year!
09-06-2018, 11:57 AM
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Those with the FF shifter, are you upgrading your cup shifter with the FF kit or simply adding a whole new shifter already upgraded? I wonder if there is any difference between the cup shifter and a regular 996 shifter other than the bushings? If not it may be best to upgrade a non cup shifter and keep the unicorn cup shifter for a rainy day? I regret selling my new spare cup shifter last year!
Unicorn Shifter. LOL.Many of the parts of a 996 cup are 996 GT3 parts with some exceptions. I seriously doubt there is any difference between the street part and the cup part, and I would venture to say that they are identical but with different part numbers. Just buy the complete FFS and drop it in. I sold my unicorn shift to one of you nuts.
Last edited by fstockcarrera; 09-06-2018 at 12:28 PM.
09-06-2018, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fstockcarrera
Unicorn Shifter. LOL. Most of the parts of a 996 cup are 996 GT3 parts with some exceptions. I seriously doubt there is any difference between the street part and the cup part, and I would venture to say that they are identical but with different part numbers. Just buy the complete FFS and drop it in. I sold my unicorn shift to one of you nuts.
Last edited by haulinkraut; 09-06-2018 at 01:46 PM.
09-06-2018, 10:31 PM
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Thanks guys, it was my thinking that 996 cup/gt3/carrera were one and the same apart from some internals on the cup but read in this very thread that the cup shifter had a slightly short throw (which i don't believe).
haulinkraut, are you saying 997 shifter with FF is less notchy than 996 shifter with FF? I realise slightly shorter throw (I like the long throw, makes fee like i'm workin hard!).
haulinkraut, are you saying 997 shifter with FF is less notchy than 996 shifter with FF? I realise slightly shorter throw (I like the long throw, makes fee like i'm workin hard!).
09-07-2018, 01:00 AM
#30
Originally Posted by spiller
Thanks guys, it was my thinking that 996 cup/gt3/carrera were one and the same apart from some internals on the cup but read in this very thread that the cup shifter had a slightly short throw (which i don't believe).
haulinkraut, are you saying 997 shifter with FF is less notchy than 996 shifter with FF? I realise slightly shorter throw (I like the long throw, makes fee like i'm workin hard!).
haulinkraut, are you saying 997 shifter with FF is less notchy than 996 shifter with FF? I realise slightly shorter throw (I like the long throw, makes fee like i'm workin hard!).
The 997 shifter is a shorter throw than the 996. It is not notchy at all compared to actual short shifters. Not sure how 997 FF compares to the 996 FF as far as notchiness goes. I am just saying the 997 isn't notchy for a shorter shifter.