WTB: 997 CUP ABS system, paddleshift system, Nordschleife shocks
10-11-2017, 02:53 AM
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ive just sold my 997 cup car got a BRAND NEW SET SACHS /PORSCHE RING SHOCKS /SPRINGs and arb kit .. that I done 2 track days at RING approx. 30 laps + New wets tyres Pirelli /2complete side radiators inc fitted hoses for quick changing +centre rad . and RSR OIL PRESSURE GUAGE for endurance racing (4 bright lights and & reading ) 2x brand new DRIVE SHAFTS / DISCS / pads lots other bits can send pics was wanting to sell as complete lot (sensible offers ) if possible Gordon ( UK )
10-11-2017, 01:32 PM
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10-11-2017, 02:09 PM
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10-13-2017, 02:42 PM
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I paid $9000 for the 997 specific M4 ABS installed. Just subtract the hours of labor at the going shop rate from that price to yield what the kit alone goes for new.
Similarly, the Holinger paddle shifter cost $14 -15,000 installed. Looking at your sales price, I would say it's competitive.
Similarly, the Holinger paddle shifter cost $14 -15,000 installed. Looking at your sales price, I would say it's competitive.
10-13-2017, 05:04 PM
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I paid $9000 for the 997 specific M4 ABS installed. Just subtract the hours of labor at the going shop rate from that price to yield what the kit alone goes for new.
Similarly, the Holinger paddle shifter cost $14 -15,000 installed. Looking at your sales price, I would say it's competitive.
Similarly, the Holinger paddle shifter cost $14 -15,000 installed. Looking at your sales price, I would say it's competitive.
The Holinger seems more reasonably priced considering it costs that much new.
From my point of view I am looking to get these either used for 1/2 price or then might as well spend the dime to buy them new.
I don't think there is any risk with buying the ABS kit used but the paddleshift system has a lot of wear items so the cost savings should be considerable vs. new. That way I could have the system thoroughly checked and serviced and still end up saving a little.
10-16-2017, 04:51 PM
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As far as the longer travel shocks, I've not found them listed in the tech manuals. But they are called out in the series pdfs.
This is from PCCD 2013:
This is from PCCD 2013:
At the
event within the framework of the
24h race on the Nürburgring the
use of a special suspension kit
according to Attachment 10 (Nordschleife
suspension kit) is obligatory
for each participant. The
original spring stop on the rear
axle is to be shortened by 24 mm
(+/ 1 mm).
event within the framework of the
24h race on the Nürburgring the
use of a special suspension kit
according to Attachment 10 (Nordschleife
suspension kit) is obligatory
for each participant. The
original spring stop on the rear
axle is to be shortened by 24 mm
(+/ 1 mm).
Attachment 10 Nordschleife suspension kit and setup
The following components must be replaced and the following changes must be carried out to convert the
Porsche 911 GT3 Cup to Nordschleife configuration
Replace the front suspension shock absorber strut (VLN version) and fit the front main spring 120/60/180
and also the helper spring 75/60/43 (standard Cup).
Replace the rear suspension shock absorber (VLN version) and fit the rear main spring 140/60/220 and also
the helper spring 100/60/50.
Set the front anti-roll bar drop-link to the minimum length (collision with wishbone possible if not correctly
adjusted).
Set the rear anti-roll bar drop link length in order to ensure sufficient clearance to the upright.
To ensure the correct ride-height an 8 mm spacer washer must be fitted (if not already under the front trailing
arm mounting bolt).
Spare parts list
Part number Description Quantity
997.343.041.99 Shock absorber, front suspension 2
997.333.051.97 Shock absorber, rear suspension 2
997.343.531.95 Main spring, front suspension 120/60/180 2
997.333.531.99 Main spring, rear suspension 140/60/220 2
997.333.537.91 Helper spring, rear suspension 100/60/50 2
997.343.723.9C Anti-roll bar cap (position changed by 5mm) 2
997.343.397.90 Spacer 5 mm anti-roll bar blade 2
Set-up for Nordschleife
Minimum front ride-height 80 mm
Minimum rear ride-height 125 mm
Front camber 4°15´
Rear camber 3°20´
Front toe setting (per wheel) +/ 0 mm
Rear toe setting (per wheel) + 16´
Front anti-roll bar 3/3
Rear anti-roll bar 2/2
Rear wing (0= flat) P5
Tyre pressure (target hot) 2.0 bar + 0.1
The following components must be replaced and the following changes must be carried out to convert the
Porsche 911 GT3 Cup to Nordschleife configuration
Replace the front suspension shock absorber strut (VLN version) and fit the front main spring 120/60/180
and also the helper spring 75/60/43 (standard Cup).
Replace the rear suspension shock absorber (VLN version) and fit the rear main spring 140/60/220 and also
the helper spring 100/60/50.
Set the front anti-roll bar drop-link to the minimum length (collision with wishbone possible if not correctly
adjusted).
Set the rear anti-roll bar drop link length in order to ensure sufficient clearance to the upright.
To ensure the correct ride-height an 8 mm spacer washer must be fitted (if not already under the front trailing
arm mounting bolt).
Spare parts list
Part number Description Quantity
997.343.041.99 Shock absorber, front suspension 2
997.333.051.97 Shock absorber, rear suspension 2
997.343.531.95 Main spring, front suspension 120/60/180 2
997.333.531.99 Main spring, rear suspension 140/60/220 2
997.333.537.91 Helper spring, rear suspension 100/60/50 2
997.343.723.9C Anti-roll bar cap (position changed by 5mm) 2
997.343.397.90 Spacer 5 mm anti-roll bar blade 2
Set-up for Nordschleife
Minimum front ride-height 80 mm
Minimum rear ride-height 125 mm
Front camber 4°15´
Rear camber 3°20´
Front toe setting (per wheel) +/ 0 mm
Rear toe setting (per wheel) + 16´
Front anti-roll bar 3/3
Rear anti-roll bar 2/2
Rear wing (0= flat) P5
Tyre pressure (target hot) 2.0 bar + 0.1
10-18-2017, 04:03 PM
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So rear bump stop is shortened to allow more compression, but is there difference in actual shock's length, F&R? Can someone measure shock bodies' lengths from bottom (bolt's eye) to top and pistons' lenghts, extented and compressed?
10-19-2017, 12:56 PM
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I paid $9000 for the 997 specific M4 ABS installed. Just subtract the hours of labor at the going shop rate from that price to yield what the kit alone goes for new.
Similarly, the Holinger paddle shifter cost $14 -15,000 installed. Looking at your sales price, I would say it's competitive.
Similarly, the Holinger paddle shifter cost $14 -15,000 installed. Looking at your sales price, I would say it's competitive.
Did you get the M4 Clubsport or the M4 Race Porsche kit with the custom harness.
10-22-2017, 01:47 PM
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