extanker

^^^ first hand knowledge of a po sitting in the weeds ......he paid way too much and blew the motor .....to be clear a tune had nothing to do with the engine failure. my advise to the op is if ya gadda have a po ..................buy new

GTgears

Ah, I get it now. He suffered a catastrophic failure he couldn't afford and it has made him risk averse. No shame in that.

For years I used to preach to never mod your daily driver. I still think that holds some merit, but these days an Accessport and an exhaust is so foolproof that it's a no brainer. It's not like putting a turbo kit or blower on it. It's a known and quite refined upgrade path. Even a Cobb Stage 1 with no exhaust is worth it, imo. Anyone who has driven a Cobb tuned car will attest that they rev and drive more smoothly than stock. Plus, for the OP, this isn't his daily driver. He's not going to be stuck if something happens. He's got a back up, so the risk is minimal. 2% seems to be a popular number. Let's say there's a 2% chance the AP will pop his motor, though I really think it less than that. An IMS bearing failure on a perfectly stock car is more likely than Cobb blowing your motor.

extanker

^^^agreed....now days canned tuna [hand held tuners] are very user friendly AND car friendly and "in house" tuners are not going to blow a motor unless the mechanic is on meth . some how this thread went from a maybe new owner to tuner wars

TexasRider

Ahhh - shots in the dark.

Nope. No catastrophic failures ever. Well I did have the famous Milk Shake in a 951. You don't have your 951 stripes until you do right.

No I don't suspect the Cobb will blow his motor. Never said that either. What I was referring to is real gains.

Now when that Cobb ain't enough. Then what? Its a slippery slope. Do I mind if other guys blow their motor for whatever reason. Not at all.

Its just that new owners should at least get some tips both ways from guys that have been around a while right. Porsche builds a strong car with solid components. But when you stick your toe across that line it can deal you a bust in the chops.

Before that Ooops moment. What was that noise? Oh just a bent valve - don't worry it is just part of it.

When you get your new P car enjoy it. Then set in to it. Best I can say.

extanker

well said

GTgears

It's only a slippery slope if you make it one. Not really anything left to discuss here...

SomnoBoost

Again, I was just asking a question because you can never have too much knowledge about a car you plan to purchase. But on that note, some car models may not have all the bugs worked out early in their lineup and sometimes a tune or flash can bring them up to date to be on par with newer models with those issues resolved. In that case, the cars can become safer or more reliable. In the case of the Speed3, upgraded fuel pump internals have saved many a motor from blowing. Guys use the Cobb tuners to monitor data logs to keep their stats at safe levels. I do it.
I have no doubt that Porsche knows how to get the most out of their ECU settings, but sometimes the addition of just an aftermarket exhaust requires a tune or flash to bring the numbers back to stock ones. Flash, chip, or tune does not automatically mean a "pay to play" bolt-on frenzy. So my question was a smart one.

On a separate note... I keep reading a lot about 2007-2009 Caymans but not much at all about 2006 models. Is there any differences between the 2006 and the 2007-2009, besides the fact that they are older and often cheaper? Any problems that the other years aren't quite as susceptible to?

Thanks for all the info!!

GTgears

Are you talking base models? 06 was only offered as an S. To my knowledge, 06S is the same as the following years S.

SomnoBoost

I just meant any 06 Cayman. I was not aware that they only made the S. I suppose that's why I don't see as many being discussed. There just aren't as many of them?

GTgears

There were actually over 1000 more sold in 2006 versus 2007.

SomnoBoost

Who knows then. I see a lot more 07-08 for sale than 06. But perhaps I'm not looking in all the right places.

sugarwood

The economy and easy credit was on fire in 06-07 (Model year 07-08)
Maybe that is why there are so many of them.

GTgears

But they made more 06 cars and he can't find them..

SomnoBoost

Well I didn't say I couldn't find an 06. I said I see more 07-08. For instance, last time I checked car gurus there were about 20 more 07's and 30 more 08's than there were 06's.
I just wanted to know if there's any issues going on with an 06 that isn't an issue on later years.

I have seen some 06 that seem like a decent deal being that it's an S vs. an 07-08 base model.

Bill Lehman

06-08 are the same car. I owned a 2007 Base as well as a 2007 S. Both were very good cars. If I were going to buy another 987, I'd pay a little more for the Gen 2, 987.2 which was introduced in 2009. Currently have a 981 GT4.