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Old 06-05-2017, 11:44 PM
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Default Fair price for this base Cayman 2011 ?

50k miles. Is that considered a lot?
Base Cayman 2011
Unmodified.
One ding.
Otherwise, in good shape.

Fair price?
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Price? It all depends...

Need way more info but post the VIN and I'll list its options and MSRP.

What do you mean by a ding?


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For context, I bought a 2010 base Cayman back in October for 27.5. Car had 60k miles. It was well bought in my view.
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2007 S with 98k miles gets no bids at $18k
High miles really kills resale demand with so many low miles examples out there?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/292134609914?ul_noapp=true
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No bids at $21k
70k miles is a killer, I think.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Porsche.../252964607505?
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I get that a 2007 with 98k miles might be a tough sell, but no bids on a $21k 2009 blows my mind. Pretty awful eBay posting though.
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Originally Posted by sugarwood
2007 S with 98k miles gets no bids at $18k
High miles really kills resale demand with so many low miles examples out there?
For me it's not the mileage (I want a car that's been driven in lieu of sitting) but I'd never consider an 06-08 Porsche since the IMS was embedded in the engine block hence an enormous co$t to upgrade the bearing.

If I had the $ I'd buy the 09 for $21k
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Originally Posted by sugarwood
50k miles. Is that considered a lot?
Base Cayman 2011
Unmodified.
One ding.
Otherwise, in good shape.

Fair price?
First get "fair" out of the price discussion.

Next my usual advice is visit the NADA and KBB sites and feed the web site the car's details and see what the wholesale-trade-in values are and that is your starting point for price negotiation provided the car is worth owning.

To know this you need a thorough check out of the car. I don't have time to post my usual detailed road test but you must spend time at or in the car with the engine running and on the road with the car first being driven like you intend to drive the car then with you driving the car over the same route driving the car the same way the selller drove the car.

Afterwards if the car is still in the running so to speak then do a used car check out verifying every system works. From head lights to tail lights, spoiler, A/C, power seats, everything. If you can get your hands on the check list the techs use for CPO'ing a car that's a good list to use. You won't be able to do all the checks but enough of them to have a pretty good feel for the car.

If the car in question has been properly services 50K miles is nothing. (My 2002 Boxster is up to over 310K miles and still runs just fine. Likewise my 2003 996 Turbo at over 155K miles.)

A plus too to a car having some miles is the car costs less and therefore will depreciate less and depreciation is the biggest expense to owning a car.

'course it is a fact that even though during your check out the car has no issues it will develop issues over time as you drive the car, add miles to the car.

Eventually the water pump will get noisy (or leak) and will have to be replaced. The fuel pump will quit.

But the car can deliver if you want probably many times that initial 50K miles in relatively trouble free driving over the years.
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I never use book value for niche used cars.
I prefer forums where people know the street value.
Just interested in a fair price ballpark, based on the limited info given.
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Originally Posted by sugarwood
I never use book value for niche used cars.
I prefer forums where people know the street value.
Just interested in a fair price ballpark, based on the limited info given.
Used Caymans are not "niche" used cars. There are enough made and enough examples trading hands on the used car market the public book values have some considerable validity.

(Dealers of course use "back of the book" which is a number they obtain by being able to track/follow auction prices of various similar cars. The value a car dealer assigns to a car is what he can get for the car at an auction in the event the car doesn't sell of his lot in what ever time frame he is wiling to floor the car.)

The only people who know the "street value" of a particular car are those who have bought the car or can relate directly what was paid and the paritculars for a car, that is MY, make, mileage, condition, options, etc.

This info is scarce and unless one is very lucky he gets numbers that probably will not apply very closely to the car he is interested in. Thus he ventures forth with an overly optimistic opinion of what a car is worth or a too pessimistic opinion of what a car is worth.

In the first case he overpays for the car. In the 2nd he probably doesn't get the car because he has assigned too low a price to the car.

I have found the few times I've used the info the values offered by KBB and NADA very helpful in helping me arrive at a price for a car.

'course, you can choose to arrive at a price by any means you want.

And I have to repeat get "fair" out of the discussion for used car prices. What is "fair"? From the seller's point of view a fair price is what he's asking for the car so then pay the asking price and be comforted by the fact you paid a "fair" price for the car.
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"Fair".

It means a price that people would say, "That wasn't a killer deal, but you didn't get ripped off either"
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After more than a year of searching, I just bought a pristine well-optioned 2011 Cayman base 6MT-low-mid $30s. Based on the previous cars I had shopped, I considered it a fair price, maybe $2k below market.
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How many miles, Bill?
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Originally Posted by sugarwood
How many miles, Bill?
45K.
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Originally Posted by mjdavis
For context, I bought a 2010 base Cayman back in October for 27.5. Car had 60k miles. It was well bought in my view.
FWIW - earlier this year I purchased a well optioned 2010 base Cayman with <20k miles and a CPO for $33k.


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