jcorderojr

Hello
Long time reader recently joined. I had a 2014 Cayman which I returned last fall. Got a 2016 Boxter Spyder which I absolutely love but want to baby and limit its miles
Looking at 2015 Cayman S CPO 7k miles manual convenience and premium packages
What do you guys think is a fair price???
Thanks in advance

tangem2

With those limited details I would say $59K

jcorderojr

What other details would help?
Listed for 63,800

tangem2

Detailed option list. Does is have PASM, PSE, sport chrono, upgraded wheels etc.

jcorderojr

It has 19 Cayman II wheels
Sport mode
Sport exhaust
Infotainment package
Convenience package

tangem2

I'd say $60K.

jcorderojr

Txs for the imput
Got some negotiations to do
Not sure how much Porsche Dealers move on used cars
This would be my first used Porsche
Also has Xpel

jcorderojr

The same dealer has a 2016 Base manual with PASM PTV and Sport chrono package

Thoughts on the 2015 S without these options versus the 2016 noted above in terms of performance

Not tracking the car I buy
Please advise

Jack-Porsche

so you are going to keep the 16 Boxster? Aren't the two extremely similar? Certainly not trying to sway you, just curious why you would want both rather than adding something that is a bit different (different generation, maybe 911, etc)
thanks and good luck

jcorderojr

Thxs for reply
i love the Spyder and plan to keep it forever
Cayman will be more of daily driver. I had a 911 but prefer the midengine concept
My trifecta would be to add a CGT but that would surely lead to divorce.
what do you think is a fair price for the above car?
Does Porsche negotiate used car prices?

inkatouring

I use my 2014 CS as a daily and love it. So, I heartily suggest it.

In terms of price, take a quick look on craigslist or ebay and see what people are asking for similar cars. Seems that asking prices are a little over $60k (based on my local craigslist).

jcorderojr

Thxs
I have done lots of price research but I have never bought a used car from Porsche Dealer
How much do they negotiate?
What is reasonable off their listing price?
Car is very low mileage 6700 and CPO
XPRL is worth $2000 IMHO
Fair price at $61k? .

jcorderojr

I meant XPEL

Jack-Porsche

I purchased my Cayman preowned from a Porsche dealer...and yes, there's always room to negotiate. Negotiation doesn't always have to be money off the price....I negotiated new Michelins at all 4 corners...you can negotiate upcoming service/maintenance as well. Good luck

Macster

Fair has nothing to with price so stop using that word.

Generally a new car depreciates 10% from the *dealer's* cost the moment the car is driven off the showroom floor.

Then every year after that, when the next year's new models arrive, and the car becomes one year older (so to speak) the car's value depreciates another 10%.

Used cars are marked up consdierably. Figure 20% to 25% or more.

What I advise is try to determine what the car's trade-in/wholesale value. The trade-in/wholesale valve is almost always all the dealer has in the car, so you start your negotiation from that number.

If had to hazard a guess I'd say you should be able to get at least 5% discount off of the asking price and more like 8% to 10% would be more like it. 'course, you can try for more.

(When negotiating for a used 996 Turbo I bought the car for $57.7K compared to the dealer's asking price of $61.9K. I could have done better I think but I weakened a bit and upped my offer more than I should have. My defense is I really wanted the car... Sometimes the heart wins out over the head.)

If you start at near what the dealer has in the car that is better than starting out at his price and trying to work him down. That really doesn't work.

By starting out at what the dealer has in the car then you can raise your offer but not right away. And when this offer is rejected -- and it will be -- you can raise your offer some more but you only raise it by less -- say half -- of what you raised your offer before previously. Say you raise your offer -- this the 1st time -- by $1000 (just a number). The 2nd time you raise your offer by $500. This signals the dealer is not going to walk you up to his price in increments of $1000.

Before you start raising your offer you still must have some idea of what the car should sell for. IOWs, if you offer say trade-in/wholesale plus some extra, you don't raise your offer by $1000 is this puts you over what you think the car should sell for. And you don't then add insult to injury by upping your offer even more.

You let the dealer walk you up to what you think the car should sell for. If you fail to buy the car then walk out the door. There is always another car.

Also, you can come back and maybe buy the car. I did this when I bought my new 2002 Boxster and my new 2002 VW Golf TDi. In the case of the Boxster I came back later than evening and upped my offer by what I had calculated the dealer had spent on flooring costs for the car. In the case of the VW I came back a week or so after and found the car exactly where I parked it after the test drive and with no extra miles on the and still inches of snow on the ground. The dealer then accepted the same offer I had made previouly.