World Wide Cayman R Registry
05-24-2015, 11:17 PM
#33
A google images search shows that Vesuvio Metallic was a PTS color the last year of the 993 model run. There is one 997 GT3 RS out there in this color as well. Seems to be somewhere bordering a deep metallic violet and black in some lighting. Pretty neat color.
05-26-2015, 07:13 PM
#35
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17 cars registered
7 PDK (41%) 10 Manual (59%)
9 Light weight buckets (53%) 8 Sports seats or after market (47%)
4 Manual with Buckets (40% of Manuals or 24% of all Rs)
5 PDK with Buckets (71% of PDK or 29% of all Rs)
Still early days with a small sample. Close to an even choice of seat with more likelihood that buckets will be in PDK cars, but balanced out by a higher proportion of manual cars out there. I think the UK registrations favour more PDK so this may be country specific.
7 PDK (41%) 10 Manual (59%)
9 Light weight buckets (53%) 8 Sports seats or after market (47%)
4 Manual with Buckets (40% of Manuals or 24% of all Rs)
5 PDK with Buckets (71% of PDK or 29% of all Rs)
Still early days with a small sample. Close to an even choice of seat with more likelihood that buckets will be in PDK cars, but balanced out by a higher proportion of manual cars out there. I think the UK registrations favour more PDK so this may be country specific.
Last edited by John McM; 05-26-2015 at 07:34 PM.
05-28-2015, 11:21 PM
#37
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Thread Starter
Cayman R Registry
Sven76, Was your car built in Finland or Germany. You can tell by the letters just before the serial numbers you posted. Is there a U or S? Thanks for the post !!!
Rick
Rick
06-01-2015, 06:34 PM
#39
1. CS 793279
2. September 2011
3. Peridot
4. PDK
5. Yes, Carbon fiber sport bucket
6. Portland, OR
7. United States
- German build
- Spyder wheels
- No radio
- No AC
- Sport Software installed by the dealer, so no dash wart
2. September 2011
3. Peridot
4. PDK
5. Yes, Carbon fiber sport bucket
6. Portland, OR
7. United States
- German build
- Spyder wheels
- No radio
- No AC
- Sport Software installed by the dealer, so no dash wart
Last edited by djm68; 06-01-2015 at 10:27 PM. Reason: Add build date
06-12-2015, 12:54 AM
#41
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I'll update this as a thread 'bump'
20 cars registered
9 PDK (45%) 11 Manual (55%)
11 Light weight buckets (55%) 9 Sports seats or after market (45%)
5 Manual with Buckets (45% of Manuals or 25% of all Rs)
7 PDK with Buckets (78% of PDK or 35% of all Rs)
20 cars registered
9 PDK (45%) 11 Manual (55%)
11 Light weight buckets (55%) 9 Sports seats or after market (45%)
5 Manual with Buckets (45% of Manuals or 25% of all Rs)
7 PDK with Buckets (78% of PDK or 35% of all Rs)
06-18-2015, 03:59 PM
#42
Instructor
Thread Starter
Word Wide Cayman R Registry data update:
Ok, Data summary:
So it is believed that there were 1421 total Cayman R's produced in the transition from the 987 to the 981. There is no 2013 Cayman model year. All Cayamn R's in North America were considered a 2012 model year. Cars for the rest of the world are sometimes designated (in advertising)as either model year 2011 or 2012. I believe Porsche considered all Cayman R's model year 2012. It is documented that there were 563 Cayman R's exported to the US market and 61 to the Canadian market. That leaves 797 cars for the rest of the world. It was believed that the production serial numbers ranged from 792065-793487, and we know that cars were produced and assembled in Finland as well as Germany. It is believed the early production cars were built in Finland under contract with Valet Automotive and later cars were built at Porsches factory in Germany. You can identify the location of your cars build by the letters proceeding the last 6 digits of the Vin number. CS stands for Cayman's built in Germany and CU are Caymans built in Finland. As we know,the Cayman R came well equipped and is a car that is very comfortable on the track as well as the street. The Cayman R was available in 11 Standard/ metallic colors and in general 4 interior packages. It has been postulated that most cars were ordered by the dealers and consumers in the tradition popular Porsche colors. Guards Red, Carrera White, Black and Platinum Silver. All of Porsche's advertising used a new special color formulated for the R called Peridot Metallic. This was a non-tradition color and it was estimated that only 10% of the cars produced were in this color. Of course special order cars were always welcome. Among other things, it came standard with a 6 speed manual transmission, and either sport leather seats or carbon fiber (GT3)race seats.
When i was doing my research on the Cayman R it was clear that the details around it's production cycle was spotty at best. Yet this is truly a limited production very special car. It had been 40 years since that last time Porsche Management had approved the R designation for a model, and clearly the first time it was ever assigned to a Cayman.
So enough of history and what we thought we knew.
I started this Registry to try to fine tune our basic knowledge of what the actual numbers for some key measurables might be.
Mix of U vs S produced cars, manufacture date, manual vs PDK, sport leather seats vs Carbon fiber bucket seats, color, and current location of the cars.
The response to the registry has been great. I first posted it on this site and since then the post has been linked to at least 4 other sites that address the world wide market.
Here is what i have found so far in the data from the first 94 cars registered:
I have included only cars with complete data...except I have included cars that have all data except the actual build date as many folks didnt know or register that information.
We only have 7 people that have registered with cars from out side the US. We believe we have 2 of the 3 Cayman R's that are believed to have been delivered to New Zealand, one from South Africa, only one from Germany, and three from the UK. All the rest are US cars.
We have vin numbers ranging from 790112-793544 a range of 3432?
It seems true that early cars(early Vin number and manufacturing dates) are manufactured in Finland...but not all! The earliest U (Finland) car is 790112 and the last U car registered is 793098. Interestingly enough we have two cars, on manufactured in Finland and one in Germany with the same numerical Vin number but one is a CU and the other is a CS car? I am not sure yet how that plays out?
The range of manufacturing dates on the cars registered range from 2/11 to 3/12.
The % of the cars registered by color are as follows; Peridot Metallic 24.4%, Carrera White 22.3%, Black 19%, Platinum Silver 12.7%, Aqua Blue Metallic 7.4%, Guards Red 6.4%, Meteor Gray Metallic 4.3%, Speed Yellow 2% and Vesuvio (special order) 1%.
The split between manual and PDK is , 51% manual and 49% PDK.
Percent with sport carbon fiber seats is 41% the majority of the cars have leather sport seats.
Only 18% have PDK and Carbon fiber seats, 24% have manual transmission and carbon fiber seats.
It looks like the change over time frame for German only manufactured cars may be around 10/11. But, up until that date we have cars produced at both factories?
It is still early and the data base is clearly biased by US cars, but I am hopeful that as we gather more data we will get a clearer picture of what occurred and how accepted the original estimates were.
We are working off of some big assumptions, one of which is that all Cayman R's Vin numbers were unique and sequential. I am not sure that Cayman R serial numbers are unique. I looks like they may have fallen into the regular build sequence for the Cayman. You do see a series of serial numbers in sequence that are R builds so maybe the factory pooled R orders at times and that accounts for the pooling as well as the break and range in serial numbers. If we new exactly how many Caymans(all Models) were built in the time frame that the R's were built we could solve some of the mystery.
I will summarize more of the date as we get more.
Thanks for your support of this effort.
So it is believed that there were 1421 total Cayman R's produced in the transition from the 987 to the 981. There is no 2013 Cayman model year. All Cayamn R's in North America were considered a 2012 model year. Cars for the rest of the world are sometimes designated (in advertising)as either model year 2011 or 2012. I believe Porsche considered all Cayman R's model year 2012. It is documented that there were 563 Cayman R's exported to the US market and 61 to the Canadian market. That leaves 797 cars for the rest of the world. It was believed that the production serial numbers ranged from 792065-793487, and we know that cars were produced and assembled in Finland as well as Germany. It is believed the early production cars were built in Finland under contract with Valet Automotive and later cars were built at Porsches factory in Germany. You can identify the location of your cars build by the letters proceeding the last 6 digits of the Vin number. CS stands for Cayman's built in Germany and CU are Caymans built in Finland. As we know,the Cayman R came well equipped and is a car that is very comfortable on the track as well as the street. The Cayman R was available in 11 Standard/ metallic colors and in general 4 interior packages. It has been postulated that most cars were ordered by the dealers and consumers in the tradition popular Porsche colors. Guards Red, Carrera White, Black and Platinum Silver. All of Porsche's advertising used a new special color formulated for the R called Peridot Metallic. This was a non-tradition color and it was estimated that only 10% of the cars produced were in this color. Of course special order cars were always welcome. Among other things, it came standard with a 6 speed manual transmission, and either sport leather seats or carbon fiber (GT3)race seats.
When i was doing my research on the Cayman R it was clear that the details around it's production cycle was spotty at best. Yet this is truly a limited production very special car. It had been 40 years since that last time Porsche Management had approved the R designation for a model, and clearly the first time it was ever assigned to a Cayman.
So enough of history and what we thought we knew.
I started this Registry to try to fine tune our basic knowledge of what the actual numbers for some key measurables might be.
Mix of U vs S produced cars, manufacture date, manual vs PDK, sport leather seats vs Carbon fiber bucket seats, color, and current location of the cars.
The response to the registry has been great. I first posted it on this site and since then the post has been linked to at least 4 other sites that address the world wide market.
Here is what i have found so far in the data from the first 94 cars registered:
I have included only cars with complete data...except I have included cars that have all data except the actual build date as many folks didnt know or register that information.
We only have 7 people that have registered with cars from out side the US. We believe we have 2 of the 3 Cayman R's that are believed to have been delivered to New Zealand, one from South Africa, only one from Germany, and three from the UK. All the rest are US cars.
We have vin numbers ranging from 790112-793544 a range of 3432?
It seems true that early cars(early Vin number and manufacturing dates) are manufactured in Finland...but not all! The earliest U (Finland) car is 790112 and the last U car registered is 793098. Interestingly enough we have two cars, on manufactured in Finland and one in Germany with the same numerical Vin number but one is a CU and the other is a CS car? I am not sure yet how that plays out?
The range of manufacturing dates on the cars registered range from 2/11 to 3/12.
The % of the cars registered by color are as follows; Peridot Metallic 24.4%, Carrera White 22.3%, Black 19%, Platinum Silver 12.7%, Aqua Blue Metallic 7.4%, Guards Red 6.4%, Meteor Gray Metallic 4.3%, Speed Yellow 2% and Vesuvio (special order) 1%.
The split between manual and PDK is , 51% manual and 49% PDK.
Percent with sport carbon fiber seats is 41% the majority of the cars have leather sport seats.
Only 18% have PDK and Carbon fiber seats, 24% have manual transmission and carbon fiber seats.
It looks like the change over time frame for German only manufactured cars may be around 10/11. But, up until that date we have cars produced at both factories?
It is still early and the data base is clearly biased by US cars, but I am hopeful that as we gather more data we will get a clearer picture of what occurred and how accepted the original estimates were.
We are working off of some big assumptions, one of which is that all Cayman R's Vin numbers were unique and sequential. I am not sure that Cayman R serial numbers are unique. I looks like they may have fallen into the regular build sequence for the Cayman. You do see a series of serial numbers in sequence that are R builds so maybe the factory pooled R orders at times and that accounts for the pooling as well as the break and range in serial numbers. If we new exactly how many Caymans(all Models) were built in the time frame that the R's were built we could solve some of the mystery.
I will summarize more of the date as we get more.
Thanks for your support of this effort.
06-18-2015, 06:20 PM
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Have checked my VIN again, can confirm that it is correct - CU790112. Earliest VIN sounds interesting, car was first owned by Porsche Italia Spa, so it was probably a demo or even press car.
Will cross-post the registry to the German forum pff. There are more German Cayman R, rest assured
Will cross-post the registry to the German forum pff. There are more German Cayman R, rest assured
06-18-2015, 09:34 PM
#45
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Cayman R data
I will continue to look for that in the data as our data on non US cars is so limited it is hard to confirm at this point? All of the Non US cars are either 790... or 791..., solar. US cars are either 792... or 793... so far?
Thanks for the heads up.
Rick
Thanks for the heads up.
Rick