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08-03-2010, 02:59 PM
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08-03-2010, 03:03 PM
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The leaked snippet said optional upgraded brakes. My source said they were the PCCBs. Wish they were the 380mm metals.
08-08-2010, 11:40 AM
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I'vee also heard the PCCB's will be optional. Who the heck wants those anyways?? After a season or so you're in for $20K to replace them.
If you plan on tracking the car, you're much better off with upgrades such as Girodisc floating slotted rotors. I hope their statement of 'upgraded brakes' means bigger, floating steel rotors, not the PCCB.
If you plan on tracking the car, you're much better off with upgrades such as Girodisc floating slotted rotors. I hope their statement of 'upgraded brakes' means bigger, floating steel rotors, not the PCCB.
08-08-2010, 03:12 PM
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Here is the Microsoft Link that describes it.
08-09-2010, 12:18 PM
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ok so how really light weight will this be for a North America car?
Given that AC is pretty much a must have here for more then just daily use but future resale value.
Light weight wheels? Come now. They are lighter good sets of 18" after market wheels that you can get real good rubber for like 18" PS cups.
The ceramic brakes will likely be a pay for upgrade and who wants to have them when the brakes are worth more then the value of the car in 4 years?
Really end of day. If I were to option one with AC and standard steel brakes. How much lighter would it be? The Lightweight hatch with optional lexan window will not be available in NA.
Could I not just get a 2009 and replace the wheels with lighter wheels then the Cayman CS wheels, remove the stereo and speakers, replace the seats with some seats that are even lighter then the sport seats and be at the same weight?
333 compared to 320 hp. Not really much of a leap here, still has the same slow gearing that the 09 has. This car should be able to run faster then a 996 3.6 but for some reason has gears that make acceleration slower.
Given that AC is pretty much a must have here for more then just daily use but future resale value.
Light weight wheels? Come now. They are lighter good sets of 18" after market wheels that you can get real good rubber for like 18" PS cups.
The ceramic brakes will likely be a pay for upgrade and who wants to have them when the brakes are worth more then the value of the car in 4 years?
Really end of day. If I were to option one with AC and standard steel brakes. How much lighter would it be? The Lightweight hatch with optional lexan window will not be available in NA.
Could I not just get a 2009 and replace the wheels with lighter wheels then the Cayman CS wheels, remove the stereo and speakers, replace the seats with some seats that are even lighter then the sport seats and be at the same weight?
333 compared to 320 hp. Not really much of a leap here, still has the same slow gearing that the 09 has. This car should be able to run faster then a 996 3.6 but for some reason has gears that make acceleration slower.
08-09-2010, 05:22 PM
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The lightweight hatch will be available in NA, but it won't have the lexan window. Don't forget the 30 lbs. for the aluminum doors, and the deleting of the spoiler mechanicals.
08-10-2010, 08:58 PM
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ok so how really light weight will this be for a North America car?
Given that AC is pretty much a must have here for more then just daily use but future resale value.
Light weight wheels? Come now. They are lighter good sets of 18" after market wheels that you can get real good rubber for like 18" PS cups.
The ceramic brakes will likely be a pay for upgrade and who wants to have them when the brakes are worth more then the value of the car in 4 years?
Really end of day. If I were to option one with AC and standard steel brakes. How much lighter would it be? The Lightweight hatch with optional lexan window will not be available in NA.
Could I not just get a 2009 and replace the wheels with lighter wheels then the Cayman CS wheels, remove the stereo and speakers, replace the seats with some seats that are even lighter then the sport seats and be at the same weight?
333 compared to 320 hp. Not really much of a leap here, still has the same slow gearing that the 09 has. This car should be able to run faster then a 996 3.6 but for some reason has gears that make acceleration slower.
Given that AC is pretty much a must have here for more then just daily use but future resale value.
Light weight wheels? Come now. They are lighter good sets of 18" after market wheels that you can get real good rubber for like 18" PS cups.
The ceramic brakes will likely be a pay for upgrade and who wants to have them when the brakes are worth more then the value of the car in 4 years?
Really end of day. If I were to option one with AC and standard steel brakes. How much lighter would it be? The Lightweight hatch with optional lexan window will not be available in NA.
Could I not just get a 2009 and replace the wheels with lighter wheels then the Cayman CS wheels, remove the stereo and speakers, replace the seats with some seats that are even lighter then the sport seats and be at the same weight?
333 compared to 320 hp. Not really much of a leap here, still has the same slow gearing that the 09 has. This car should be able to run faster then a 996 3.6 but for some reason has gears that make acceleration slower.
1. "333 compared to 320 hp. Not really much of a leap here, still has the same slow gearing that the 09 has." - If they get the 333 with changes to the plenem/throttle body then it's not worth much. If not, the IPD Plenum/GT3 throttle body could give another 20 HP. Hoping they may change the gearing, but not holding my breath.
2. Wheels will have to be replaced with 18's.
3. Definitely steel brakes - anyone with track experience will agree with that.
I would counter with:
1. You won't get significantly lighter seats that are as good (with airbag) for significantly less $'s.
2. I'm hoping they offer a 'bolt-in' 'european only' rollbar. If so, this would be worth a lot, and might only be easily done with the CS. These things cost a lot of money.
3. If they're going to take 150 - 200 lbs off the stock Cayman, they'd better do it by more than eliminating options. This car has got to outperform the Spyder by a meaningful margin.
4. It's got to have better downforce/aero than stock. Plus it should look cool.
I'm first on the list and hoping for a 'street driver' that I can dedicate for mostly track use. We'll see.
