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Based on responses, we may add center-cap accommodation, but we'll leave it up to you to decide cap/no-cap/what cap
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Survey submitted and hoping these come to fruition. I'm currently running EC-7s on my BMW MCoupe, and would love a set of the SM-10s on my wife's Cayman S.
Here's a shot of us playing chase at MSR Cresson last weekend
Here's a shot of us playing chase at MSR Cresson last weekend
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I recognize your username & M Coupe from Bimmerforums - beautiful steel gray S54! I sold my 2001 S54 M Coupe not too long ago and certainly miss it. I had extensive seat-time in my M Coupe, but little to none in a 981. How do they compare?
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Brakes = No comparison, Cayman wins hands down. With her girodiscs and PFC08 pads, I was braking and then having to coast up to my turn in point. Girodiscs and good pads are an amazing combo and worth the money.
Handling = I wasn't expecting as much difference between the two as I felt. Cayman just starts slipping straight sideways when it loses grip, versus MCoupe wanting to swap ends. Cayman is extremely stable and easy to push right up to the line. Go too far, and you can just back down a hair and it pulls right back into shape. MCoupe you go too far, and you're mowing the grass. Basically classic throttle-steering versus drifting on the sweepers.
PDK is just unfair; the Cayman was never in the wrong gear and shifts kept the revs in the power band well. That alone is worth a second or two around a 1:30 min track over the MCoupe's 5 speed stick.
I think with practice I'd be quicker in the Cayman, but it's not as challenging and engaging to drive. As one of my track friends says, my coupe just kinda feels like it wants to kill me, so I have to stay on top of it or it'll bite me in the butt.
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I actually talked the wife into letting me do a session in her Cayman S last month and it was a lot of fun. Biggest diffeences were:
Brakes = No comparison, Cayman wins hands down. With her girodiscs and PFC08 pads, I was braking and then having to coast up to my turn in point. Girodiscs and good pads are an amazing combo and worth the money.
Handling = I wasn't expecting as much difference between the two as I felt. Cayman just starts slipping straight sideways when it loses grip, versus MCoupe wanting to swap ends. Cayman is extremely stable and easy to push right up to the line. Go too far, and you can just back down a hair and it pulls right back into shape. MCoupe you go too far, and you're mowing the grass. Basically classic throttle-steering versus drifting on the sweepers.
PDK is just unfair; the Cayman was never in the wrong gear and shifts kept the revs in the power band well. That alone is worth a second or two around a 1:30 min track over the MCoupe's 5 speed stick.
I think with practice I'd be quicker in the Cayman, but it's not as challenging and engaging to drive. As one of my track friends says, my coupe just kinda feels like it wants to kill me, so I have to stay on top of it or it'll bite me in the butt.
Brakes = No comparison, Cayman wins hands down. With her girodiscs and PFC08 pads, I was braking and then having to coast up to my turn in point. Girodiscs and good pads are an amazing combo and worth the money.
Handling = I wasn't expecting as much difference between the two as I felt. Cayman just starts slipping straight sideways when it loses grip, versus MCoupe wanting to swap ends. Cayman is extremely stable and easy to push right up to the line. Go too far, and you can just back down a hair and it pulls right back into shape. MCoupe you go too far, and you're mowing the grass. Basically classic throttle-steering versus drifting on the sweepers.
PDK is just unfair; the Cayman was never in the wrong gear and shifts kept the revs in the power band well. That alone is worth a second or two around a 1:30 min track over the MCoupe's 5 speed stick.
I think with practice I'd be quicker in the Cayman, but it's not as challenging and engaging to drive. As one of my track friends says, my coupe just kinda feels like it wants to kill me, so I have to stay on top of it or it'll bite me in the butt.
As we know, the M has its flaws, short wheelbase, and a rear suspension design from the dinosaur ages, but it sure does make for a ton of fun as a DE car. I was able to dial some neutrality out of it with alignment settings and proper suspension, but there's no true way around its inherit biases and geometry. The M Coupe is similar to my 930 in a sense that there's no gradual breakaway - it's very unforgiving and just snaps. Put your right foot down and hope for the best!
Do you have any pictures of your M Coupe on EC-7 to share?
Thank you!
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275/35-18 NT01s on 18x10.5 w/27 offset and 6 spacer in rear.
Very slight rub in reverse at full steering lock only
and a good picture showing how they'll mimic the OE wheels I'm trying to protect
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Hard to believe, but that was actually the random number PCA gave me for my first DE? I took it as a sign I was meant to be out there in it.
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Please feel free to reach out with any further questions or email me for more solidified ETA/pre-order details if you do not see them posted.
Thank you for the inquiry!