Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06 review
02-07-2018, 06:48 PM
#31
Respectfully disagree and please tell me you bought a Cayenne for the handling. Currently owning a CTT-S and a GTS, I'll agree that they do a more than respectable job of it but that's not what they were made for. There's a reason they're affectionately called "Pigs".
I drive my Cayennes year-round and also use it to tow my snowmobiles to wherever the snow is. I've logged 130K miles on DWSs chasing our college baseball player all over the East Coast and baseball is a spring/summer sport so I think I have built a pretty good knowledge base on the DWS.
DWSs have never caused anything remotely like a safety issue and they go through snow like the proverbial knife through butter. In rain they are fantastic too and handle respectably in the dry.
If its all about handling, the Cayenne is the wrong tool to pull out of the box.
I drive my Cayennes year-round and also use it to tow my snowmobiles to wherever the snow is. I've logged 130K miles on DWSs chasing our college baseball player all over the East Coast and baseball is a spring/summer sport so I think I have built a pretty good knowledge base on the DWS.
DWSs have never caused anything remotely like a safety issue and they go through snow like the proverbial knife through butter. In rain they are fantastic too and handle respectably in the dry.
If its all about handling, the Cayenne is the wrong tool to pull out of the box.
Is there a better handling Porsche with room for three adults in the back? Panameras have that stupid center console in the back and even the new panamera sport turismo (aka porsche station wagon) is a "4+1", not a 5 seater.
True I haven't put 100,000 miles on the DWS yet but just the last 1,000 miles have been concerning enough that I completely hate them and plan to remove them as soon as risk of snow in my area has passed in another few weeks. I don't know if I'll ever use them again, I have a extra vehicle I might just drive during the few days a year we get snow or ice.
02-08-2018, 12:29 PM
#32
I bought a Cayenne for handling. Best handling SUV I could find after driving boxsters for years. They're called Pigs because compared to the rest of the Porsche line-up they are indeed Pigs but compared to every other SUV on the market they might as well be ballerinas
True I haven't put 100,000 miles on the DWS yet but just the last 1,000 miles have been concerning enough that I completely hate them and plan to remove them as soon as risk of snow in my area has passed in another few weeks. I don't know if I'll ever use them again, I have a extra vehicle I might just drive during the few days a year we get snow or ice.
02-09-2018, 01:32 PM
#34
Instructor
Sorry to thread jack, and I do appreciate your review on the DWS as I have been looking at these tires for years because of all of the great reviews. I would probably serious considers these for my kids vehicles that only run all season tires. However, with both my M5 and my CTTS, I have dedicated winter and summer tires just because I don't believe that all-season tires do a good enough job during the extremes to justify them on a vehicle with these type of capabilities. I have used all season tires on rear wheel drive cars and they just don't do a good enough job in the snow in my opinion, and I wasn't even going to take the chance on my wife getting into trouble with 550HP under her right foot.
So, my question what experience does anyone have with Continental CrossContact UHPs on the Cayenne. My summer rims are 21" and if I stick with Porsche spec tires, the choices are really quite limited - and I don't want to start a discussion on whether you need Porsche spec tires, I have read that enough
. I have spent the last few months reading review on TireRack, here and 6Speed but just wasn't finding exactly the information that I was looking for. So, if anyone has run these on their Cayenne, I would appreciate any feedback as how they compare to other "summer" tires.
So, my question what experience does anyone have with Continental CrossContact UHPs on the Cayenne. My summer rims are 21" and if I stick with Porsche spec tires, the choices are really quite limited - and I don't want to start a discussion on whether you need Porsche spec tires, I have read that enough
. I have spent the last few months reading review on TireRack, here and 6Speed but just wasn't finding exactly the information that I was looking for. So, if anyone has run these on their Cayenne, I would appreciate any feedback as how they compare to other "summer" tires.
02-09-2018, 06:08 PM
#35
Sorry to thread jack, and I do appreciate your review on the DWS as I have been looking at these tires for years because of all of the great reviews. I would probably serious considers these for my kids vehicles that only run all season tires. However, with both my M5 and my CTTS, I have dedicated winter and summer tires just because I don't believe that all-season tires do a good enough job during the extremes to justify them on a vehicle with these type of capabilities. I have used all season tires on rear wheel drive cars and they just don't do a good enough job in the snow in my opinion, and I wasn't even going to take the chance on my wife getting into trouble with 550HP under her right foot.
So, my question what experience does anyone have with Continental CrossContact UHPs on the Cayenne. My summer rims are 21" and if I stick with Porsche spec tires, the choices are really quite limited - and I don't want to start a discussion on whether you need Porsche spec tires, I have read that enough. I have spent the last few months reading review on TireRack, here and 6Speed but just wasn't finding exactly the information that I was looking for. So, if anyone has run these on their Cayenne, I would appreciate any feedback as how they compare to other "summer" tires.
So, my question what experience does anyone have with Continental CrossContact UHPs on the Cayenne. My summer rims are 21" and if I stick with Porsche spec tires, the choices are really quite limited - and I don't want to start a discussion on whether you need Porsche spec tires, I have read that enough
. I have spent the last few months reading review on TireRack, here and 6Speed but just wasn't finding exactly the information that I was looking for. So, if anyone has run these on their Cayenne, I would appreciate any feedback as how they compare to other "summer" tires.My .02 and I have .00 experience with the CCC UHP's.
02-10-2018, 03:25 PM
#36
Instructor
I hear you about the lack of snow in our area, but you never know... Unfortunately for me we only have the 3 vehicles to drive. The M5 and the CTTS are the two performance oriented and a '73SL is the top down cruiser that will never be mistaken for a performance oriented vehicle 
That is why I have summer and winter for the M5 and CTT, and of course getting to play pit crew when I change the tires
That is why I have summer and winter for the M5 and CTT, and of course getting to play pit crew when I change the tires
02-11-2018, 02:28 AM
#37
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Sorry to thread jack, and I do appreciate your review on the DWS as I have been looking at these tires for years because of all of the great reviews. I would probably serious considers these for my kids vehicles that only run all season tires. However, with both my M5 and my CTTS, I have dedicated winter and summer tires just because I don't believe that all-season tires do a good enough job during the extremes to justify them on a vehicle with these type of capabilities. I have used all season tires on rear wheel drive cars and they just don't do a good enough job in the snow in my opinion, and I wasn't even going to take the chance on my wife getting into trouble with 550HP under her right foot.
So, my question what experience does anyone have with Continental CrossContact UHPs on the Cayenne. My summer rims are 21" and if I stick with Porsche spec tires, the choices are really quite limited - and I don't want to start a discussion on whether you need Porsche spec tires, I have read that enough. I have spent the last few months reading review on TireRack, here and 6Speed but just wasn't finding exactly the information that I was looking for. So, if anyone has run these on their Cayenne, I would appreciate any feedback as how they compare to other "summer" tires.
So, my question what experience does anyone have with Continental CrossContact UHPs on the Cayenne. My summer rims are 21" and if I stick with Porsche spec tires, the choices are really quite limited - and I don't want to start a discussion on whether you need Porsche spec tires, I have read that enough
. I have spent the last few months reading review on TireRack, here and 6Speed but just wasn't finding exactly the information that I was looking for. So, if anyone has run these on their Cayenne, I would appreciate any feedback as how they compare to other "summer" tires.Cheers,
TomF
02-11-2018, 02:35 PM
#38
Rennlist Member
Originally Posted by boxsternewbie
I bought a Cayenne for handling. Best handling SUV I could find after driving boxsters for years. They're called Pigs because compared to the rest of the Porsche line-up they are indeed Pigs but compared to every other SUV on the market they might as well be ballerinas.
Is there a better handling Porsche with room for three adults in the back? Panameras have that stupid center console in the back and even the new panamera sport turismo (aka porsche station wagon) is a "4+1", not a 5 seater.
True I haven't put 100,000 miles on the DWS yet but just the last 1,000 miles have been concerning enough that I completely hate them and plan to remove them as soon as risk of snow in my area has passed in another few weeks. I don't know if I'll ever use them again, I have a extra vehicle I might just drive during the few days a year we get snow or ice.
Is there a better handling Porsche with room for three adults in the back? Panameras have that stupid center console in the back and even the new panamera sport turismo (aka porsche station wagon) is a "4+1", not a 5 seater.
True I haven't put 100,000 miles on the DWS yet but just the last 1,000 miles have been concerning enough that I completely hate them and plan to remove them as soon as risk of snow in my area has passed in another few weeks. I don't know if I'll ever use them again, I have a extra vehicle I might just drive during the few days a year we get snow or ice.
02-11-2018, 02:38 PM
#39
Not sure if that is the origin of "Pig" but OK. Please remember that I bought 2 so I must appreciate them as well.
They better be tiny humans or the trip better be very short. I'm a mere 6'1" and the space behind the driver's seat is not what I would consider "generous". The middle seat is not a great place either, nice and flat with zero lateral support. I would not put someone my height behind me for very long. My GSD fits well however.
That is a great example of how subjective tires are. One of my Cayennes has Pirelli Scorpion Zero A/S tires and one has DWSs. The DWS shod Cayenne is so much more stable and confidence inspiring than the one with Scorpions. This appears to be a consensus:
They better be tiny humans or the trip better be very short. I'm a mere 6'1" and the space behind the driver's seat is not what I would consider "generous". The middle seat is not a great place either, nice and flat with zero lateral support. I would not put someone my height behind me for very long. My GSD fits well however.
That is a great example of how subjective tires are. One of my Cayennes has Pirelli Scorpion Zero A/S tires and one has DWSs. The DWS shod Cayenne is so much more stable and confidence inspiring than the one with Scorpions. This appears to be a consensus:
https://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-...tml#post579830
Like I said, is there another porsche that fits 3 adults in the backseat better than a cayenne? I had another porsche when I bought this pig, and with kids it just sat and sat and sat. I was sad having a beautiful porsche sit and rot while driving the pig daily so I freed the porsche to roam the pastures with another driver. No porsche should sit imho. Yes I know some people are happy driving a prius or slow suv as a daily and keep a hotrod or supercar in the garage for weekend driving but that's not me. I want to have my cake and eat it too, so the pig turbo is the best of both worlds. I may buy a 911 or boxster again, but for the foreseeable future I need the extra space the pig provides.
yes I read the reviews too, that's why I bought the dws. Clearly the people leaving those reviews are not porsche owners, they don't expect their vehicles to handle well, because if they had they would not have been rating the dws highly at all. And the porsche owners that do rate this tire highly are not driving their porsches like they're porsches, they're driving them like they're lexus or hondas.