Uncle Jimmy

No I haven't. I live here in Germany and I see enough BMWs on the side of the road and in the repair shops that I never wanted to buy one.

oldskewel

Updated coolant pipes went on with the new engine (as written). But no on the other things you list. This truck is driven well within its limits and the climate here probably helps too.

Mark in Baltimore

Well, look what the cat drug out.

If you drove it faster than 60 mph, maybe you'd have more issues. Wait, you definitely have issues.

(Glen and I have known each other for over 32 years and like to mess with each other. )

Fox_

The cycle:

1.)Find a nice Turbo or GTS for sale
2.)Read this thread
3.)Cringe and forget about the idea
4.)Repeat.

Gh0st0

gbstu

Outside of fluid changes, coils, brakes, etc, here's a list of what I've replaced in the last 2 years on my 2008 CTT (60-80K miles):

Starter motor
Rear PDCC line
Right side front caliper (frozen piston)
Front drive shaft (snapped while in low range)
Secondary catalytic converter (element rattling inside)

I do all my own work, so not overly expensive. This is my 2nd CTT, they're fantastic vehicles.

Wisconsin Joe

Meh, you just have to understand what you are getting into. .

For me, it was the opportunity to get a car that listed over $90k new, at around $16k.
It was the opportunity to get into an amazing, high performance, luxury SUV. Capable of stuff I'd only dreamed of.

It came with all of the drawbacks and liabilities of a 10 year old car with 100k+ miles on it.

And all the potential issues that are common to these particular cars.

Fortunately, this forum allowed me to walk into it with knowledge and understanding, not with 'my eyes wide shut', which is how I got into my 944.

I've had little issues like hatch struts and headlights.
Bigger issues like original coolant pipes and the cardan shaft (did the pipes before they blew and the Jimi fix on the shaft).

Throw in the odd issue like the starter (changed it when I did the pipes), and the 'wet wiring harness' under the carpet (only issue that left me stranded).
And the 'not surprising' stuff like oil changes and tires.

Right now, I'm getting the 'four wheel drive faulty' message, which means I'm likely going to be replacing the stepper motor when it warms up.
And the screen on the PCM is going weird (reverse contrast) sometimes.

All of this (and more) is part of the 'ownership experience'.

If you understand what you are getting into, and are willing to take on the risks and expense and hassle, great.
It's not for everyone.
I have no regrets on my purchase. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

Fox_

I'm no stranger to high maintenance cars, but what seems to be a high rate of unmitigatable engine destruction is just a bit much for me.

At this point a RR Sport seems like the safer bet of the two.

Wisconsin Joe

Fair enough.

The cylinder scoring issue is a very serious one.

And one that PCNA seems to be completely ignoring (which seems to be typical behavior on their part).

But it's really hard to quantify.
Yes, there are a lot of them reported.
But there were lots and lots of them made.
There seem to be lots of them surviving (as many surviving over 100k miles as scored? More?)
And the sample size isn't very good. It's not in any way 'scientifically accurate' either.

As is typical with these types of forums, there are a lot more "I have this problem and need some help" threads than "I have this car and love it" threads.
So the problems (all of them, not just the scoring) get blown out of proportion.

Again, each person has to do the research, evaluate the info and make a decision they are comfortable with.
What is right for me may or may not be what's right for you or for anyone else. And what's right for you may or may not be right for me or anyone else.

In my case, I have a 955 CTT. The turbos seem to be less susceptible to it. I got it with 103k on the odo. It seems like the scoring appears in the 'mid to high 5 digit' miles range. It has lived in Wisconsin it's entire life.
So I believe that if it was going to happen, it would have happened already.
I could be wrong on that, and it could go bad tomorrow.
In which case, the car would get stripped out and junked.
And I have to go out and get a new(ish) car.

I'm comfortable with that. (again, 'eyes wide open')

philg3

As I recall the cylinder scoring was primarily in the non-Turbo V8. I had a 955 CTT, and experienced many problems noted on this thread -- some were handled by extended warranty, some were not. Sold it at 60Kmi and bought the 958 (2 of them) with very few problems.

I disagree with others who opine that all those repair issues on the 955 are to be expected if one wants to go with Porsche. That first version was a disgrace, and Porsche should have made good on these defects; ultimately had to on the coolant pipe issue, but it took a class action to address that one. No one seemed to mention the strut on the parking brake or the water pump failures. And don't use struts if they are unreliable. They figured that one out on the 958.

uphoto

I'm going to jump in here in vote for how much I love my 08 CTT.

Give it another year and who knows if I'll be saying the same........

BUT I did buy it a year ago and 15k miles later all I've done is oil changes. I'm about to do the coils, plugs and torque arm.

Bought the car because I knew that the big stuff had been done: all fuel pumps, rear coolant lines (and all seals that need to be done after that blows), cardon shaft, turbo diverter valves? etc. and that it should be fairly trouble free. I've had the damn trim pieces at the base of the doors pop off when kids get out of the car and I've fixed those but beyond that it's been a dream to own and at 87k miles I've got a long way to go still. No scoring and hopefully I miss that bomb.

About to replace the head unit but that's voluntary since I want BT and apple car play.