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Old 02-20-2018, 03:27 PM
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Trying to decide between a Cayenne or an X5. Haven't owned either of these before. Would like some input on which is these is a better buy. I am looking at the xDrive35i vs the base Cayenne model. What do you think of these two? Any thoughts on drive characteristics, interior space etc would be appreciated.
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What year Cayenne? Ah, it doesn't matter. I can't think of a single reason to go with the X5 unless you prefer regularly visiting the dealership for the free donuts. Or you just like the way it looks better.
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Cayenne all the way. X5s are made in the USA and they are not reliable.
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Originally Posted by nodoors
What year Cayenne? Ah, it doesn't matter. I can't think of a single reason to go with the X5 unless you prefer regularly visiting the dealership for the free donuts. Or you just like the way it looks better.
It will be the 2019 new Cayenne. But I have only test driven the 2018 one obviously.

What about space? Do you feel the cabin space is adequate? It seems a bit smaller than my current Acura MDX.
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Coming from a current AND former BMW owner, I don't think you want that headache if you've never experienced one before. I've owned 5 and am currently trying to get out of the wife's 5-series. I traded my X5 4.8 last November for my GTS. The Porsche doesn't have all the bells and whistles that my fully optioned X5 had but all those bells and whistles caused all the issues. Trust me, with the newer BMWs, you get to a point when walking up to the car in the mornings, you wonder WHICH warning light is going to fire up when you hit the start button. Keep in mind, none of mine had hit the 100k mile mark yet either. Luckily my indy mechanic made house-calls and never charged me shop prices for repairs. They're like beautiful girlfriends that love spending YOUR money to shop....Just my 2-cents.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Coleman II
Coming from a current AND former BMW owner, I don't think you want that headache if you've never experienced one before. I've owned 5 and am currently trying to get out of the wife's 5-series. I traded my X5 4.8 last November for my GTS. The Porsche doesn't have all the bells and whistles that my fully optioned X5 had but all those bells and whistles caused all the issues. Trust me, with the newer BMWs, you get to a point when walking up to the car in the mornings, you wonder WHICH warning light is going to fire up when you hit the start button. Keep in mind, none of mine had hit the 100k mile mark yet either. Luckily my indy mechanic made house-calls and never charged me shop prices for repairs. They're like beautiful girlfriends that love spending YOUR money to shop....Just my 2-cents.
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How do you compare the interior space between the two? Is the Cayenne a bit smaller? Especially in the front shoulder width?
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Yes Cayenne is a bit more confined but I think that's more of the seat design. I know for sure that the rear seat passenger space is less.
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I might be crazy but I'd say neither car.

The Cayenne in its base spec is missing all the things that make Cayenne's amazing. The X5 is just unremarkable in my opinion and I guess at least the base spec means you didn't throw anymore money than you had to on an unremarkable car.

I think for significantly less you could get a Volvo XC90 which would be better optioned than either the Cayenne or the X5 even at its base price. If you still want to spend as much - you could probably tick every major option for the XC90 and have a very well equipped car with every feature imaginable including driverless car tech.
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If you are worried about space and this is going to be your biggest car, then you may be disappointed with either the X5 or Cayenne. I am astounded at how quickly the car fills up compared to our other SUV's.

If space and family considerations are in the mix and the XC90 is in the running I will 2nd that vote. The T8 is pretty stellar. Not sure I would want to own one naked until the sands of time prove it is as reliable as the older models, though. You may have no intention of owning these cars out of warranty if you are looking at a 2019 Cayenne, but I don't think either can be worse than the BMW for reliability.
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Originally Posted by NelaK

The Cayenne in its base spec is missing all the things that make Cayenne's amazing.
Base spec will feel heavy and underpowered. You need to move up to an S at a minimum. The base spec Macans and Cayennes are the dealer service loaners, not the ones you want to own.
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Swap a lease on both cars and drive them for a few months
or
Maybe there some Turos near to you?
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Originally Posted by NelaK
I might be crazy but I'd say neither car.

The Cayenne in its base spec is missing all the things that make Cayenne's amazing. The X5 is just unremarkable in my opinion and I guess at least the base spec means you didn't throw anymore money than you had to on an unremarkable car.

I think for significantly less you could get a Volvo XC90 which would be better optioned than either the Cayenne or the X5 even at its base price. If you still want to spend as much - you could probably tick every major option for the XC90 and have a very well equipped car with every feature imaginable including driverless car tech.
How about this option?

[ ] - Not a Volvo

Didn't think so.

BTW, I have both a Cayenne S and a 3.0i X5. Both are great, very different. And probably SO different from a 2019 anything that I won't try to answer the question. My main concern with the older cars I have is reliability and minimal effort in keeping them running well. So I love the 3.0's durability, and am (perhaps needlessly) concerned about cylinder scoring in the Cayenne V8. With a new car, you never know.

Also, I happened to see this thread. Similar, about a year older, discussing older X5-vs-Cayenne's.
https://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-...cayenne-s.html

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Originally Posted by oldskewel
How about this option?

[ ] - Not a Volvo

Didn't think so.

BTW, I have both a Cayenne S and a 3.0i X5. Both are great, very different. And probably SO different from a 2019 anything that I won't try to answer the question. My main concern with the older cars I have is reliability and minimal effort in keeping them running well. So I love the 3.0's durability, and am (perhaps needlessly) concerned about cylinder scoring in the Cayenne V8. With a new car, you never know.

Also, I happened to see this thread. Similar, about a year older, discussing older X5-vs-Cayenne's.
https://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-...cayenne-s.html
What is your issue with the XC90? Other than the transmissions in the early Twin Turbo V6 models and the transmissions in the early V8 years there really isn't much to complain about them. The newest generation is really a huge step up.
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No issues at all. But they're Volvo's. I don't pay any attention to them. Maybe I'm missing out on something. Which is fine with me. No offense intended. Just a joke.
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Originally Posted by nodoors
What is your issue with the XC90? Other than the transmissions in the early Twin Turbo V6 models and the transmissions in the early V8 years there really isn't much to complain about them. The newest generation is really a huge step up.
Reliability of a supercharged, turboed 4 banger past warranty?


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