jmj951

Category: Wheels & Tires
Price (no $ sign please): $2200
Private or Vendor Listing: Private Listing
Part fits (select ONLY those which apply): 924/931/944/951/968
Location (Region): Midwestern
Item Condition: Used

1/6/13 Update: I've corrected the measurements on the rear wheels. My measurements were a little bit off (the specs are not stamped onto the wheels and I measured with tires mounted). I've corresponded with Forgeline and they have confirmed that the rears are 18x10 ET 60, so they will be legal for club racing as well (per the rule book, wheels used for PCA club racing can be up to one inch wider than the originally supplied wheel).

I have a set of four very high-quality Forgeline WC-3 wheels for sale. $2200 plus shipping.


The offsets are as follows:

Fronts: 18"x8.5" +55mm offset ($985 each from Forgeline)
Rears: 18"x10" +60mm offset ($1012 each from Forgeline)

And of course, they have Porsche lug spacing at 5x130mm

These wheels were built specifically for late-offset 944/951 and 968. The offsets are also very close for narrow-body 993's (within a few millimeters - they would use 18x8 et52 and 18x10 et65).

Center caps are not included (I've never had them). One set of used Tire Rack tire totes are included. Used Hoosier R6 tires are included, but they have 21 heat cycles (each heat cycle consisting of a 15-20 minute DE outing) and unfortunately the right front tire has a bad blister from my last session of the day and must be replaced anyway. High-resolution pics are in the links below (be sure to zoom in). The manufacturer's web page for these wheels is here:

http://www.forgeline.com/products/pe...inch-only.html
(select gunmetal gray on the right to see the correct finish)

Per the manufacturer:
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Forgeline WC3 wheels are aggressively styled and built to perform with true forged 6061-T6 aluminum centers, heat-treated aluminum rim shells, and aircraft-quality stainless steel ARP fasteners. They feature a standard polished finish with a polished lip.

The WC3 is offered in sizes ranging from 18x7 to 18x15. And since each wheel is built to order, Forgeline can offer special features like custom offsets, center locking hubs, and a choice of center finishes.

•3-Piece Performance Series Wheel

•Stepped-Lip Design

•Aircraft-Quality Stainless Steel ARP Fasteners

•Generous Brake Clearance

•Forged 6061-T6 Aluminum

•Heat-Treated Rim Shells

•Includes Standard Aluminum Center Cap

•Customizable Fitment and Finish Options

•Legendary Forgeline Quality and Customer Service
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I personally used them on a 1986 Porsche 944 turbo. I had to use spacers on the rear wheels to clear the inner fender (you can see the rear spacers in the picture if you zoom in). To fill out the rear wheel wells, I went with 35mm spacers. No spacers were needed on the front and they fit really well, though I use a lot of camber at the track so I had plenty of clearance to the lip of the front fender and could have even used slide-on spacers if I had them. See the pic below of them mounted on the car.



These wheels were sent by the previous owner to Forgeline in the summer of 2011. The wheels were completely disassembled, thoroughly inspected & verified to have no problems. The outers were polished and the centers were powder coated gunmetal grey. I purchased them in February 2012 and ran two DE days on them. I have hauled these wheels to the track and mounted/dismounted them there. I have not driven them on public roads. I had no incidents of any kind at the track (never went off track, didn't hit anything), so literally, these wheels have never even hit a bump in the road since they were inspected and refinished by Forgeline. They still look like almost brand new wheels and they were absolutely perfect at the track. One rear wheel got one chip in the paint (probably from track debris). That same wheel has a few minor marks (see pics - for whatever reason this corner of the car took the most debris), so I would rate it at a 9/10. The other three I would rate at a 9.9/10.

If a spacer is used, it must be either:
(1) a slide-on spacer with longer studs installed in the hub, or
(2) a bolt-on spacer that is thick enough such that the face of the spacer is flat (no wheel studs from the hub sticking out from the spacer - you would need about 35mm to do this, and this is not recommended for racing or high-performance driving).
The reason for this restriction is that the inside face of these wheel centers is completely flat, so you must have a completely flat surface to mount the wheels onto. Narrower bolt-on hub-centric spacers (such as 22-30mm spacers) do not work with these wheels because the original factory wheel stud sticks out too beyond the face of the spacer, and doesn't provide a flat surface to mount the wheel onto. If you are within driving distance of Aurora, IL, you are welcome to personally mount these wheels onto your car to test the fit. I have one set of 35mm rear spacers that I used on my car that you can use for test fitment if needed.

No value for the tires is being factored into the price - I just don't want to have the tires removed because I don't want to risk the possibility that the tire shop might scratch them (the outer lips of all four are perfect, not a single scratch).

High Resolution Pics are as follows:
Front1 front: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50004598/Front1front9.9.JPG
Front1 back: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50004598/Front1back9.9.JPG
Front2 front: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50004598/Front2front9.9.JPG
Front2 back: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50004598/Front2back9.9.JPG
Rear1 front: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50004598/Rear1Front9.9.JPG
Rear1 back: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50004598/Rear1back9.9.JPG
Rear2 front: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50004598/Rear2front9.0.JPG
Rear2 back: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50004598/Rear2back9.0.JPG
Rear2 front closeup of ding and blemishes:https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50004598/Re...k9.0zoomed.JPG
One of the Tire Rack tire totes: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50004598/TireTotes.JPG

I'm selling the wheels because I have moved back to Europe for another three year tour (military family) and these are now just sitting in my garage back in Illinois. Although I'm definitely keeping the 951 in storage, I won't have an opportunity to hit the track for another three, possibly six years (if we do two consecutive overseas tours).

These wheels would come to a total cost of $3994 new from Forgeline - before shipping. I am asking only $2200 plus shipping, and I'm including a set of four Tire Rack tire totes. The wheels are boxed up ready to go. Each front wheel box weighs ~48lbs and each rear wheel box weighs ~52 lbs. Shipping is from 60504. Buyer pays actual shipping charges. Here are some approximate UPS ground shipping charges:
$300 to the eastern U.S.
$225 to the midwest
$375 to the western states

Thanks for looking and let me know if you have any questions!

John

Amir_M

Hi John


Very interested in these.

Could you get me a quote for shipping to London in the UK please?

Zip is NW9 6NY

Thanks!

jmj951

For international shipping, we'd have to remove the tires from the wheels, as it makes a huge difference in the shipping cost, and I wouldn't be able to do that until 12/26. 3-day delivery would be $560 USD via USPS, $624.25 through Fedex International Economy. I'm sure there are more affordable freight options, but all of those require submitting a request for a quote.
Thanks,
John

Another P

PM sent

dp951

nice wheels

Another P

Still pending?

jmj951

Local buyer didn't show, so they're still available.

jmj951

Bump. DE season is starting next month (depending on where you live), so now is the time if you've been thinking about getting a set of track wheels!

flyfast

Still available?

jmj951

Yes, I've been holding onto them, but they're no longer in CA, they're now in my garage in Illinois. If you're interested, I can have someone ship them out for me (I'm in Spain now).