Panamera 4 E-hybrid Owners Thread
#1111
[QUOTE=tp81;15004654]My car has finally arrived in sunny Scotland. I knew before my salesman thanks to the Porsche car connect. Due for collection on moday. I had to stop in and see it and check the boot space with the Burmester, this has really been the only thing I have been unsure off and unable to get any real guidance from the dealer. The official response was - You will loose some space but not sure how much.
Loved that nice new GT3 Touring happened to siting next to it.
Loved that nice new GT3 Touring happened to siting next to it.
#1112
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Full charge battery range
I know this has been discussed in the past, but has anyone actually seen 30+ miles range displayed after a full battery charge? For me, after a full night charge my e-power range is only displaying between 22 - 24 miles, and this morning it only displayed 20 miles!!?? Should I be concerned with my battery capacity? I've put ~700 miles on the car, mostly with city/stop and go traffic (Chicago) driving, and the charger is plugged into a normal 110V outlet (takes a long time to fully charge I know..about 10 - 14 hours). I know people have talked about "conditioning" the battery in the past, but I rarely go on long drives, so it would be difficult for me to do that. I'm sure the dealer will just write this off as "normal behavior". Thoughts anyone?
#1113
I know this has been discussed in the past, but has anyone actually seen 30+ miles range displayed after a full battery charge? For me, after a full night charge my e-power range is only displaying between 22 - 24 miles, and this morning it only displayed 20 miles!!?? Should I be concerned with my battery capacity? I've put ~700 miles on the car, mostly with city/stop and go traffic (Chicago) driving, and the charger is plugged into a normal 110V outlet (takes a long time to fully charge I know..about 10 - 14 hours). I know people have talked about "conditioning" the battery in the past, but I rarely go on long drives, so it would be difficult for me to do that. I'm sure the dealer will just write this off as "normal behavior". Thoughts anyone?
#1115
It has been referred to as a "detuned" version of the 2.9L engine. Not sure if that is correct or not?? I did also see a post in which they speculated that the turbos on the E-Hybrid are not the same as those on the 4S. Either way, I believe Porsche really wants the 4 E-Hybrid to be successful and it is priced accordingly between the Base Model and the 4S. If they hadn't "detuned" it then the HP would have been 572 instead of 462 and then the 4S being priced higher wouldn't have made any sense in their lineup. All of the above is just speculation on my part, but sometime in the future there will be a more detailed explanation. Would be nice to have another 90 HP but really not necessary. The 4 E-Hybrid is plenty fast!!
#1116
Reflections In Left Side View Mirror
Driving back from Monterey this evening I noticed the left sideview mirror shows a reflection of the dash where the headlight switches are located. I found this somewhat disturbing as I thought I was seeing something there when I glanced and then realized it was just a reflection. I'm thinking I need to turn down the brightness of the overall dashboard lights. I haven't changed them from the "default" settings. Has anyone else noticed this reflection at night in the left sideview mirror?
#1117
Burning Brakes
I posted the page from the owner's manual about the break-in period of 2000 miles (3000 km), but I suppose that this is for the ICE only (there is only one manual for both ICE-only and E-Hybrid vehicles, from what I can see). So for those of us with E-Hybrids, that makes it very difficult to know when you've run 2000 miles on ICE, given how often the car uses the electric motor only. I guess that the writers of the manual didn't think about that...
#1118
I posted the page from the owner's manual about the break-in period of 2000 miles (3000 km), but I suppose that this is for the ICE only (there is only one manual for both ICE-only and E-Hybrid vehicles, from what I can see). So for those of us with E-Hybrids, that makes it very difficult to know when you've run 2000 miles on ICE, given how often the car uses the electric motor only. I guess that the writers of the manual didn't think about that...
#1119
Racer
How hot does folk's oil get? I was a little surprised to see my oil on a fairly gentle autoroute journey on a day with an ambient of around 20ºC, getting up to 104ºC. The oil temperature on my 997 Turbo S never went over 95º even with very high speed cruising on German Autobahns. The oil temperature on my 1977 3.3L RSR even on competition use, never goes over 95º, albeit that has a very large 72 row oil cooler in the middle of front splitter/apron. The oil pressure on the E-Hybrid seems low as well at 21psi or 1.44 bar at 2000 RPM in 8th gear. I have now done around 4000 km in the vehicle. The oil pressure on my 997 was always up around 4 to 5 bar.
#1120
Burning Brakes
How hot does folk's oil get? I was a little surprised to see my oil on a fairly gentle autoroute journey on a day with an ambient of around 20ºC, getting up to 104ºC. The oil temperature on my 997 Turbo S never went over 95º even with very high speed cruising on German Autobahns. The oil temperature on my 1977 3.3L RSR even on competition use, never goes over 95º, albeit that has a very large 72 row oil cooler in the middle of front splitter/apron. The oil pressure on the E-Hybrid seems low as well at 21psi or 1.44 bar at 2000 RPM in 8th gear. I have now done around 4000 km in the vehicle. The oil pressure on my 997 was always up around 4 to 5 bar.
#1121
Racer
Wilson
#1122
Burning Brakes
Yes due to the "Oil overfilled" problem. This was almost certainly due to driving the car too gently with short runs for the first 700 odd miles in cold and wet weather, which caused excess fuelling and condensation contamination of the oil. I just hope that did not cause any main bearing damage, which could result in the high oil temperatures and low oil pressure problems I am seeing. Given that the Panamera uses full synthetic oil, I would think this is very unlikely. I might however, send an email to my UK dealer (I am at my French house at present), just so that this is on record. What oil temperatures and pressure do you see?
Wilson
Wilson
#1123
When I took delivery of the car, I reset the "trip" odometer. By using the various trip odometer, it shows how many miles have been driven on electricity alone. So, the subtraction of the total trip - e-trip should equal how many miles ICE has been used. I have been trying to get the highest mpg since getting the car. (except for a 2 nights where I tried the e-Launch control and many 0-50 runs to see how fast it is and the different ways to launch. Even with many hard launches, I still drove home and it said 20mpg. Once I get bored of this mpg game, I will start to rev the car up in the future.
#1124
Yes, Lefty, I have the same reflection. I decided that I would rather have my switches more visible than turn them down to the level to avoid the reflection. Nothing is ever perfect...lol.
#1125
FYI - Just received this text from my dealer regarding 2019 orders. "So I called our GSM to confirm. He said something is going on with Panamera and Macans right now. Says we wont see 2019 Panamera/ Macans until December/January."