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Old 04-21-2019, 12:24 AM
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Default Wondering of collectability of 2016 final V8 GTS

Would like to hear experiences and opinions if the final 2016 year V8 GTS is a good catch. I'm a recent Porsche convert. Bought all MBZ, BMW, GM 30+ cars over the years then just bought 2015 Panamera base, and this month 997.Gen2 Now I'm all in with 2 Porsches. I read that naturally aspirated GTS V8 is last in 2016, so am wondering will the Panamera v8 (no turbo) be collectable or at least more desirable in the long run? or go to
a TT as a better bet?
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I don’t see a Panamera being a collectible ever, any model. (I own a Panamera Turbo executive)
Old 04-21-2019, 08:01 AM
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I would agree with Chedman 13. I had a reservation about trading my NA GTS for a TT. I think you have to enjoy the car today. With two, you can spread the miles over many years.
Old 04-21-2019, 10:14 AM
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Yep I see your points. Enjoy while I've got them, Maybe limit the depreciation loss would be a better question. Maybe resale would be better given last V8. As a friend once told me, "You don't limit your loss when you sell, you limit your loss when you buy."
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With the exception of the RS cars, there aren’t many truly collectible modern Porsches and even they are depreciating again. The GTS has a bit of a cult following, so as you mentioned, it may depreciate less than others.
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I agree that the Panamera model range as it exists and has existed isn't likely to produce any long-term collectibles.

As for retaining value/limiting depreciation over the longer term, I guess there's a chance that the NA engines may wind up proving easier to care for over time. At the very least it has one less thing to break without a turbo. To the extent that that makes them more reliable over time, I could see that making them a smarter buy. That said, I have no idea whether that will be the case, nor am I especially familiar with what the track record is for this engine. Just talking more in the abstract here. But may be worth running down and pondering.
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I’m not aware of any modern 4 door cars that are collectible. Also, it will be difficult/costly to maintain electronics on any modern car so the best advice i can give is to enjoy it and share the miles with another DD to prolong your ownership.
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Originally Posted by justabout
I’m not aware of any modern 4 door cars that are collectible. Also, it will be difficult/costly to maintain electronics on any modern car so the best advice i can give is to enjoy it and share the miles with another DD to prolong your ownership.
Aston Martin Lagonda. The styling is not for everyone but their value is appreciating at auction.
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Another angle to approach this from is to achieve the best possible discount up front. Negotiating a better purchase price buys you time on the depreciation curve, especially if it's well-optioned and miles are low.
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if you hold on to it and don't drive it much, the price will eventually go back up, maybe even surpass what you paid for it, but that is probably something like 30-40 years down the road
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Originally Posted by DogWood
if you hold on to it and don't drive it much, the price will eventually go back up, maybe even surpass what you paid for it, but that is probably something like 30-40 years down the road
And an awful lot of maintenance. Emphasis on awful! Especially if you actually rack up miles on it
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Originally Posted by Chedman13
I don’t see a Panamera being a collectible ever, any model. (I own a Panamera Turbo executive)
Correct answer.
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Collectability and modern cars, is a very rare prospect. The previous gen Supra, and the early 2000's Ford GT are about the only thing I can think of off the top of my head as being an investment car. Maybe the small BMW M1 from a few year ago? Certainly there is a desirability for the V8 GTS from Porsche buff, because of the NA engine and sound, but they aren't going to be immune from depreciation. If anything they might be harder to find because their owners keep them!

The Panamera despite its controversial looks, has sold a lot of cars. They aren't particularly common, but they aren't really rare either. Also I think with modern cars, the fact that they are rolling computers that will continue to be very expensive to fix means that 30-40 years from now they my be as bricked as a gen 1 iPad.
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Originally Posted by Paul Rathjen
Collectability and modern cars, is a very rare prospect. The previous gen Supra, and the early 2000's Ford GT are about the only thing I can think of off the top of my head as being an investment car. Maybe the small BMW M1 from a few year ago? Certainly there is a desirability for the V8 GTS from Porsche buff, because of the NA engine and sound, but they aren't going to be immune from depreciation. If anything they might be harder to find because their owners keep them!

The Panamera despite its controversial looks, has sold a lot of cars. They aren't particularly common, but they aren't really rare either. Also I think with modern cars, the fact that they are rolling computers that will continue to be very expensive to fix means that 30-40 years from now they my be as bricked as a gen 1 iPad.
911R
Carrera GT
918 Spyder
F40
F50
E30 M3
E39 M5
Z8
996 Turbo
Diablo
any Dino
any Ferrari halo model

the list of modern collectable cars is pretty long... but I agree that a Panamera will not grace this list
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996 Turbo?
I didn’t see any 993 Turbo or 991.1?


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