2018 Turbo vs 2019 GTS?
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
2018 Turbo vs 2019 GTS?
I’m in the market for a new daily driver and think a Panamera might fit the bill quite nicely. After doing just a little research, I’m considering either 2018 Turbo or putting in an order for a 2019 GTS. According to the Porsche configurator, a nicely optioned GTS comes in at around $160K. Since it’s not even released yet, it’s unlikely a dealer is going to give me much of discount off of MSRP. It appears I can get a equally loaded 2018 Turbo, with an original MSRP closer to $180K, off the lot for the same or probably less than the new GTS. I would appreciate some feedback on which way to go. I’m also open to exploring other options not listed above.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
#2
Race Car
Sir, you ask the question for the ages. This is like asking who is better, Patrick Long or Mark Webber? Steve McQueen or Paul Newman? Richard Pryor or Eddie Murphy?
As the old saying goes- "he who had Panamera GTS never regretted it"
As the old saying goes- "he who had Panamera GTS never regretted it"
#4
My understanding is the turbo and GTS are close in weight and heavy. Given that, for the same price I would go with the power. The handling differences/ tuning are not really known until consumers can drive these back-to-back. Could be a long wait for that feedback. Either way you cannot go wrong.
#6
I literally just went through this same dance and landed on a new 2018 Turbo, loaded - out of Atlanta, actually. With a huge discount, it came in $7k below MSRP for my planned 2019 GTS spec, out the door, delivered to me outside of DC. Never been more happy with a car decision. I sold my 2013 GTS - which I adored - to move to the new model with great trepidation, especially after driving a 2018 4S for 3 days and not loving the engine. In the end, while the new GTS will have a V8 it is only a modest bump over the 4S. With the additional weight from the bigger engine it may be a push with 4S. But the Turbo has it all - a truly amazing car. If you can get a deal like I did on a 18 Turbo grab it and don’t look back. One final thing to consider - while they are saying April delivery on the new GTS, it seems everything coming out of Europe has been pushed back weeks/months thanks to certs/EPA. So even if you think you are getting another year by going with a 19, it could be fall before it shows up. If you find the right 18, grab it . You won’t think twice.
#7
I literally just went through this same dance and landed on a new 2018 Turbo, loaded - out of Atlanta, actually. With a huge discount, it came in $7k below MSRP for my planned 2019 GTS spec, out the door, delivered to me outside of DC. Never been more happy with a car decision. I sold my 2013 GTS - which I adored - to move to the new model with great trepidation, especially after driving a 2018 4S for 3 days and not loving the engine. In the end, while the new GTS will have a V8 it is only a modest bump over the 4S. With the additional weight from the bigger engine it may be a push with 4S. But the Turbo has it all - a truly amazing car. If you can get a deal like I did on a 18 Turbo grab it and don’t look back. One final thing to consider - while they are saying April delivery on the new GTS, it seems everything coming out of Europe has been pushed back weeks/months thanks to certs/EPA. So even if you think you are getting another year by going with a 19, it could be fall before it shows up. If you find the right 18, grab it . You won’t think twice.
really hate the detuned cars from factory. Why bother?
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#8
Race Car
The GTS won’t disappoint. It is a step up in torque - 457 to about 405 lb Ft on 4S I think. And lowered and recalibrated suspension. Built for a purist. A Turbo is an awesome car but I recommend PDCC and RAS on that baby to make it responsive.
#9
Instructor
Thread Starter
All great feedback - thanks! I’m going to see if I can negotiate an aggressive deal on an 18 Turbo. It appears I should be able to get at least 15% off of MSRP. If I’m unsuccessful I’ll order up a loaded GTS and add a custom tune.
#12
Very happy you didn’t buy it - I absolutely love it! Had 81 miles when I got it - hopefully those that you put on were kind!
A bit more on GTS v Turbo, I recall in 2012 when I ordered my 13 GTS, they were heavily discounting Turbos then too such that they were about the same price, more or less, as a GTS. Since there were GTSs on the lot then (unlike now), I was able to drive them back to back. The N/A, noisy V8 on the 2013 GTS won out hands down. But the new GTS is going to be, as noted, just a detuned Turbo. All the other bells and whistles on the Turbo will come with the GTS. So if they are the same price (which, again, they aren’t unless you are able land a great deal on the Turbo), to me the GTS will a baby Turbo, with the engine detuned by nearly 20%. That makes the Turbo v GTS question a no brainer, again assuming pricing is close to equal. While I truly loved my 2013 GTS due to the N/A response and unequaled growl, the power on the Turbo is too good for words. If you find the right car, you won’t be sorry about the Turbo no matter how good the GTS will be when it hits the streets.
A bit more on GTS v Turbo, I recall in 2012 when I ordered my 13 GTS, they were heavily discounting Turbos then too such that they were about the same price, more or less, as a GTS. Since there were GTSs on the lot then (unlike now), I was able to drive them back to back. The N/A, noisy V8 on the 2013 GTS won out hands down. But the new GTS is going to be, as noted, just a detuned Turbo. All the other bells and whistles on the Turbo will come with the GTS. So if they are the same price (which, again, they aren’t unless you are able land a great deal on the Turbo), to me the GTS will a baby Turbo, with the engine detuned by nearly 20%. That makes the Turbo v GTS question a no brainer, again assuming pricing is close to equal. While I truly loved my 2013 GTS due to the N/A response and unequaled growl, the power on the Turbo is too good for words. If you find the right car, you won’t be sorry about the Turbo no matter how good the GTS will be when it hits the streets.
#13
Very happy you didn’t buy it - I absolutely love it! Had 81 miles when I got it - hopefully those that you put on were kind!
A bit more on GTS v Turbo, I recall in 2012 when I ordered my 13 GTS, they were heavily discounting Turbos then too such that they were about the same price, more or less, as a GTS. Since there were GTSs on the lot then (unlike now), I was able to drive them back to back. The N/A, noisy V8 on the 2013 GTS won out hands down. But the new GTS is going to be, as noted, just a detuned Turbo. All the other bells and whistles on the Turbo will come with the GTS. So if they are the same price (which, again, they aren’t unless you are able land a great deal on the Turbo), to me the GTS will a baby Turbo, with the engine detuned by nearly 20%. That makes the Turbo v GTS question a no brainer, again assuming pricing is close to equal. While I truly loved my 2013 GTS due to the N/A response and unequaled growl, the power on the Turbo is too good for words. If you find the right car, you won’t be sorry about the Turbo no matter how good the GTS will be when it hits the streets.
A bit more on GTS v Turbo, I recall in 2012 when I ordered my 13 GTS, they were heavily discounting Turbos then too such that they were about the same price, more or less, as a GTS. Since there were GTSs on the lot then (unlike now), I was able to drive them back to back. The N/A, noisy V8 on the 2013 GTS won out hands down. But the new GTS is going to be, as noted, just a detuned Turbo. All the other bells and whistles on the Turbo will come with the GTS. So if they are the same price (which, again, they aren’t unless you are able land a great deal on the Turbo), to me the GTS will a baby Turbo, with the engine detuned by nearly 20%. That makes the Turbo v GTS question a no brainer, again assuming pricing is close to equal. While I truly loved my 2013 GTS due to the N/A response and unequaled growl, the power on the Turbo is too good for words. If you find the right car, you won’t be sorry about the Turbo no matter how good the GTS will be when it hits the streets.
#14
Burning Brakes
at risk of going off topic, a used ferrari ff is now same price as new panamera. while lacking 4 doors, they both still only seat 4 and ferrari has insane na v12 which could be last chance to drive one. can get extended warranty and routine maintenance covered too.
#15
Three Wheelin'
true, but damn if that isn't just a horrid looking vehicle from the b pillar back.