If you had $180,000 to buy any new car
09-23-2018, 12:11 AM
#18
just researched the Ferrari FF. wtf this car looks like a clown shoe lol. the price tag is great for a Ferrari though and you do get pretty much the 2nd or 1st best engine note on any car you can buy today
09-26-2018, 01:39 PM
#19
Rennlist Member
09-26-2018, 01:45 PM
#21
Pro
i would say the FF certainly looks as good as, if not better, than either generation of panamera. personally, i love the look. if i were at that price point, the FF would certainly be a top consideration, but it is far more 'flashy' than the panamera - even if just based on Ferrari recognition. if the FF is a clown shoe (the BMW M-coupe is the true clown shoe), than I'm happy to drive a clown shoe proudly.
09-26-2018, 01:48 PM
#22
Pro
I think that Porsche makes the best-driving-and-most-reliable-and-best-made (combined assets, I mean, not separate) 4-door cars on the planet.
Personally, I'd only opt for something less expensive in another brand, not something equally or more expensive. I personally don't think any cars are worth more than about $60k except for Porsches, meaning I'll only buy a non-Porsche if it's under about $60k.
Personally, I'd only opt for something less expensive in another brand, not something equally or more expensive. I personally don't think any cars are worth more than about $60k except for Porsches, meaning I'll only buy a non-Porsche if it's under about $60k.
09-26-2018, 02:19 PM
#23
Burning Brakes
I don’t mean to be rude but your comment makes no sense at all. You are conflating worth, value, and utility. The Panamera is a fantastic 4 door but there are many other 4 door cars that are equally fantastic when viewed through the lens of the owner. $60 seems so arbitrary, how did you arrive at that number?
09-26-2018, 03:10 PM
#24
Pro
ok, thanks for sharing
Well, this is all subjective; everybody has their view of what's worth a certain amount of money and what's not. My personal take is just that most cars over $60k aren't worth it, outside of Porsche. I won't buy a Volvo or a BMW or a Mercedes or an Audi or a Ferrari, etc., over $60k. That's my personal draw line. I just don't think that brands other than Porsche deserve my personal money over the $60k mark, that's all. It's like fine wine; at some point, most people will say that a $75 bottle of wine just isn't THAT much better than a $35 bottle that's it's worth spending the money on. Many people at Rennlist obviously have higher levels in what's "worth it" in cars than I do, and I recognize that I'm unusual in that manner as a Porsche owner. I bought a brand new Panamera, but I'd never spend that kind of money on anything other than a Porsche; other cars don't impress me like Porsches do.
09-26-2018, 09:12 PM
#25
Instructor
Well, this is all subjective; everybody has their view of what's worth a certain amount of money and what's not. My personal take is just that most cars over $60k aren't worth it, outside of Porsche. I won't buy a Volvo or a BMW or a Mercedes or an Audi or a Ferrari, etc., over $60k. That's my personal draw line. I just don't think that brands other than Porsche deserve my personal money over the $60k mark, that's all. It's like fine wine; at some point, most people will say that a $75 bottle of wine just isn't THAT much better than a $35 bottle that's it's worth spending the money on. Many people at Rennlist obviously have higher levels in what's "worth it" in cars than I do, and I recognize that I'm unusual in that manner as a Porsche owner. I bought a brand new Panamera, but I'd never spend that kind of money on anything other than a Porsche; other cars don't impress me like Porsches do.
09-27-2018, 09:45 AM
#27
GTC4LUSSO T is a beauty and a "reasonably" priced Ferrari for brand new. I really want to get a Panamera Turbo, but they are completely overpriced!! I live in South Florida and they can't give away the Turbos. Most are on sale on the dealer websites, so I may go with the 2019 AMG GT63 4 door or the 2019 Porsche Cayenne Turbo for around 135-145K loaded. Loaded Panamera's Turbos are going for over 180K
09-27-2018, 12:04 PM
#29
Instructor
Originally Posted by Josh s
GTC4LUSSO T is a beauty and a "reasonably" priced Ferrari for brand new. I really want to get a Panamera Turbo, but they are completely overpriced!! I live in South Florida and they can't give away the Turbos. Most are on sale on the dealer websites, so I may go with the 2019 AMG GT63 4 door or the 2019 Porsche Cayenne Turbo for around 135-145K loaded. Loaded Panamera's Turbos are going for over 180K
09-28-2018, 12:32 AM
#30
Burning Brakes
If you offered me for free a $180k CPO 2014 FF vs. a new $180k Panamera Turbo S, I'd take the latter every time if I were going to drive the car for 3-4 years. If I were going to turn around and sell the car within a year or two, I might take the FF because it will hold high value longer. They'd both be very fun to have as daily drivers.