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Old 05-25-2017, 06:02 PM
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Looks enticing!
Old 05-25-2017, 08:52 PM
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I would take weights quoted by Lamborghini with a 300lb grain of salt. Regular Huracan 610-4 curb weight is over 3,400 with standard CCBs and aforementioned lightweight construction. C&D quotes 88 lbs of weight saved with CF bonnet, splitter, rear fascia and wing, so ~3,350 lbs wet. 150-200 more than a GT3RS, but not bad considering the giant V10 and AWD...
Old 05-25-2017, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
I would take weights quoted by Lamborghini with a 300lb grain of salt. Regular Huracan 610-4 curb weight is over 3,400 with standard CCBs and aforementioned lightweight construction. C&D quotes 88 lbs of weight saved with CF bonnet, splitter, rear fascia and wing, so ~3,350 lbs wet. 150-200 more than a GT3RS, but not bad considering the giant V10 and AWD...
I'd take Porsche quoted weights with a big grain of salt too to be fair. They are quoted with maximum weight saving spec (no cage, no radio, no aircon etc). Real world weights of the 991rs are much nearer 1500kg (fully fuelled) than the quoted 1420kg.
Old 05-25-2017, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 95spiderman
cars you list have fixed roll protection or are retractable hardtops. hurracan is a pure softtop with only pop up roll bars. no tracks will allow it.

regardless, how can the ala work in a car that can have open or closed top? makes no sense to me
Sorry it's just not true.
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Originally Posted by Guest89
I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong; the Aventador DOES have a CF monocoque, but it still weights circa 4,000 lbs (!)

The Huracan, however, does NOT have a CF monocoque, despite what you'd like to believe.

As for racing, the Huracan is a relatively weak car in the GT3 / GTD classes; its popularity - according to Lamborghini themselves! - relates to cost. It's the cheapest to own and run, whereas the 488 was the most expensive in 2016. I do not know where the AMG ranks in terms of cost to own and operate, but it is the car to beat in Europe and the states.

Relatively weak - I could not agree more.

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Say what you want about the Performante (I like it but can definitely see why some don't), I think aero is an area of huge potential in terms of near-term progress for cars. I think the ALA system is awesome and that we'll see more active aero in the near future as everyone else scrambles to catch up.
Old 05-26-2017, 02:59 AM
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I would like to see verified times of this car by other pro drivers.

I don't believe that aero only and few other tweaks contributes to 6.50 ring time although I believe the time is real.

From technical point of view why not to use an actuator (or two) at the rear wing? Slightly heavier but much more efficient by adjusting angle of attack of the whole wing (or it's two halves to keep that magic feature in the turns) instead of disturbing the airflow by bleeding air through the wing vents.
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Originally Posted by qbix
From technical point of view why not to use an actuator (or two) at the rear wing? Slightly heavier but much more efficient by adjusting angle of attack of the whole wing (or it's two halves to keep that magic feature in the turns) instead of disturbing the airflow by bleeding air through the wing vents.
Maybe, but then again maybe they're on to something and we'll see the air distruption head to planes instead of spoilers. Think about it, how many years did they blindly make planes with bleed air for a/c and pressurization before Boeing realized it was more efficient to do it electrically?
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
I would take weights quoted by Lamborghini with a 300lb grain of salt. Regular Huracan 610-4 curb weight is over 3,400 with standard CCBs and aforementioned lightweight construction. C&D quotes 88 lbs of weight saved with CF bonnet, splitter, rear fascia and wing, so ~3,350 lbs wet. 150-200 more than a GT3RS, but not bad considering the giant V10 and AWD...
Thanks Alan, I've updated the chart.

C&D US test curb weights (options);
GT4_________3,050 lbs (PCCB, LWB)
GT3 RS______3,155 lbs (PCCB, LWB, Li, AC and radio delete)
GT3_________3,197 lbs (PCCB)
LP 580-2_____3,351 lbs - my estimate with optional LWB, based on publicized 72 lbs less than LP 610-4
Performante__3,359 lbs - my estimate based on publicized 88 lbs less than LP 610-4, and LWB 24 lbs difference based on Porsche weights
LP 610-4_____3,423 lbs (LWB) EU, but factory says all markets same
R8 plus______3,684 lbs
R8__________3,794 lbs - my estimate based on US brochure 110 lbs more than R8 plus

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Old 05-26-2017, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by d00d
Thanks Alan, I've updated the chart.

C&D test curb weights;
GT4_________3,050 lbs (PCCB, LWB)
GT3 RS______3,155 lbs (PCCB, LWB, Li, AC and radio delete)
GT3_________3,197 lbs (PCCB)
I assume those weights are of US cars so without the rollcage?
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Originally Posted by isv
I assume those weights are of US cars so without the rollcage?
Correct, US with no CS package.
Old 05-26-2017, 10:34 AM
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Just a bit too over the top for my tastes, but they are very cool cars. Just too much attention.
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Originally Posted by robmypro
Just a bit too over the top for my tastes, but they are very cool cars. Just too much attention.
^ this is probably blasphemy, but I think the car is ugly.
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Originally Posted by Houston GT3
^ this is probably blasphemy, but I think the car is ugly.
I wasn't a huge fan either, until I saw one on the road. It looks a lot better in person imo.
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