OT: Giulia Quadrifoglio 7:32 at Ring
09-09-2016, 03:15 AM
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I agree that this latest Alfa is an awesome car and a very tempting one. For me it is a much more enticing option than any other car in it segment. It's got heritage, looks and sex appeal. The name rolls off the tongue like a sexy Italian women would...if you know what I mean.
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09-09-2016, 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Macca
Today's Giulia (Julia) QV (there was an earlier one 1962- 1978). It was used to take Alex to school :-)
Will retail under 80K in USA I should think...
Really. Whats not to like?
Will retail under 80K in USA I should think...
Really. Whats not to like?
THIS Brown One is EXACTLY what I was taken to school with.. It was a Giulietta to be precise, and I was 5-5 years old and was IN LOVE with the wooden steering wheel. HOW THE HECK DID YOU KNOW THAT??? I'm impressed at the accurate guess... Anyway,
It made a great sound but it wasn't particularly fast. However, my mother was scared of flying so we would drive from England where we lived during the 80's to Italy multiple times/year. Once, the transmission got stuck in 4th gear on a trip from England to Italy somewhere in the alps and that little engine somehow got us all the way up and down Mt Blanc pass and into Milan where a mechanic undoubtedly took a sturdy hammer to the gearbox and it started working again....
... After that my father got a light green BMW 535i like this one, and I never thought Of our brown Giulietta again (until this moment)
09-09-2016, 08:05 AM
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I like the idea of the Alfa. My fear is that as exciting as the Guila QV is the final product will be typical unfinished Alfa. I had an Alfa 75 back in the days and boy it caused me trouble. Recently I had an Alfa4C and I was so underwhelmed and afraid that something will go wrong I got rid of it in 4 months.
09-09-2016, 09:35 AM
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It was a luck(ish) guess Alex ;-)
Thing is I don't buy into all this "Alfa quality is rubbish" today.
I know a few 4C owners and although they will admit there are a few shortfall with the package (engine, suspension geometry) none of them have had issue with the car failing.
We know the QV package is sound. The world motoring press have already driven it and mostly given it 4.5 out of 5 stars, almost all of them place it ahead of latest M4 competition pack in DCT. That's a tweaked M coupe.
Now we have seen a Ring lap impressive enough to finally deal with the naysayers (already I see them dreaming up stories about how it was faked like the moon landing!).
Has anyone seen the in car footage of the Panamera turbo latest lap at the Ring which took the Saloon title back from Alfa QV manual 7.39 (recorded early in 2016?). Notice the car is PDK, caged and running MPSC2?
Remember the QV is on road tires. On Trofeo we could see sub 7.30!
Germany SportAuto will help us understand if this car can do it. If they get within 7s then you have to say it's real as that is there standard deviation for cars in this bracket vs factory over last few years...
Heck we are posting concerns of reliability on the 991 GT3/RS board so we need our heads checked!!
Thing is I don't buy into all this "Alfa quality is rubbish" today.
I know a few 4C owners and although they will admit there are a few shortfall with the package (engine, suspension geometry) none of them have had issue with the car failing.
We know the QV package is sound. The world motoring press have already driven it and mostly given it 4.5 out of 5 stars, almost all of them place it ahead of latest M4 competition pack in DCT. That's a tweaked M coupe.
Now we have seen a Ring lap impressive enough to finally deal with the naysayers (already I see them dreaming up stories about how it was faked like the moon landing!).
Has anyone seen the in car footage of the Panamera turbo latest lap at the Ring which took the Saloon title back from Alfa QV manual 7.39 (recorded early in 2016?). Notice the car is PDK, caged and running MPSC2?
Remember the QV is on road tires. On Trofeo we could see sub 7.30!
Germany SportAuto will help us understand if this car can do it. If they get within 7s then you have to say it's real as that is there standard deviation for cars in this bracket vs factory over last few years...
Heck we are posting concerns of reliability on the 991 GT3/RS board so we need our heads checked!!
09-09-2016, 01:36 PM
#36
This looks incredible. Amazing time especially for a sedan.. giving the M3 a run for the money. Love the styling and interior layout. Very impressive. From the video it looks very quick. Looks to pull hard..
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09-09-2016, 05:41 PM
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and from this, we can deduce that the germans value safety of their drivers and professionalism more than the italians.
but.. not much about the cars.
but.. not much about the cars.
09-09-2016, 07:42 PM
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I see the car bouncing and... i don't think the car that will be sell to the public bounce like that... modified suspension maybe? ... and being bi-turbo... maybe a little tune for this test? hmmmmm
09-09-2016, 07:47 PM
#41
+1 - not convinced this is true production spec. It is a Fiat/Ferrari developed engine after all.
09-09-2016, 10:02 PM
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Most cars driven with that much heat would be "bouncing". The driver was an animal.
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09-09-2016, 10:20 PM
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Those Italian car companies have an extensive tradition of exaggerating the performance figures of their cars in contrast to the conservative (and more honest) Germans.
09-09-2016, 10:34 PM
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You're kidding right?.. Those names have huge historical racing & brand context .. They basically define Alfa Romeo's glorious past.. It's a genius marketing move on many levels, not the least of which is the fact that cars with complex Italian names capture the Anglo and international collective imagination like nothing else... From rap songs to magazines, we are full of Italian car names everyone unwittingly butchers while loving to hear themselves pronounce the words. Even the Japanese take a stab at it with Italian-ish sounding words just to add cache' to their beige bubble sedans. Giulia quadrifoglio ticks all the boxes.. Although the instruction manual should dedicate a page to teaching non-Italians how to pronounce the "GL" sound in -foglio, and the "GI" sound in Giulia.
09-09-2016, 11:02 PM
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I'd buy one as a DD. I still have my 500 Abarth that I ordered new in 2012 and it hasn't exploded yet, although it sounds like it might! The exhaust noise is pretty radical for a production economy car. I thought it would fall apart but the quality is pretty good overall considering its Mexican made (probably better than if it was Italian made!). Not sure the Maserati Ghibli, I mean Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio will be screwed together well...
