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Dec 20, 2018 | 01:41 AM

#76

MaxLTV

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Originally Posted by ipse dixit

Urus faster than M2?

Something wrong with that M2 - the massive AMG GT 4-door (weighs almost as much as a Cayenne) beat it by so much. Maybe some setup or tire issues? I did not like M2 (non-competition) when I tracked it in Europe, but it was not THAT slow, and Competition is supposed to be better.

But the bigger question is what tires were on RS and what were on Pista. If RS on MPSC2 R and Pista on MPSC2 (non-R), it's an expected outcome. Otherwise, it's a wow.

Dec 20, 2018 | 04:47 AM

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Waxer

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Originally Posted by Brosef

yes, something isn't right. 4 seconds on a sub 2 minute lap is massive. that's the kind of gap I would expect a GT2RS to put on a G3RS (as a result of an extra ~200 hp), not a gap i would expect from cars with similar power. also, the Pista might have less drag (probably does), but I doubt it generates the downforce that a 2RS does without a fixed rear wing. have you seen any published figures on downforce, or are you just making assumptions?

Actually the reverse. The smaller tighter trackes favoror the 3RS and times within the same second like at Angelsey. Even at the Ring, the longest and fastest of all time difference per mile was less than 2 seconds.

Oct 16, 2019 | 01:54 PM

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Sport Auto:

.....................Porsche 991.2 GT2 RS: 6:58.28 (Cup2 R)
............................Ferrari 488 Pista: 7:00.03 (Cup2 R)
.....................Porsche 991.2 GT3 RS: 7:05.41 (Cup2 R)
..................Mercedes-AMG GT R Pro: 7:06.60 (Cup2 ZP)
...Lamborghini Huracán Performante: 7:07.99 (Trofeo R)
.................................McLaren 720S: 7:08.34 (P Zero Corsa)
...............................McLaren 600LT: 7:08.82 (Trofeo R)
Porsche 991 GT3 RS Manthey-Racing: 7:09.59 (Cup2 N0)
........................Mercedes-AMG GT R: 7:10.92
...........Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C7): 7:13.90
....................Porsche 991.2 Turbo S: 7:17.11
..........................Porsche 991.2 GT3: 7:18.20
..............................Ferrari 488 GTB: 7:21.63
..............Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS: 7:23.77
......................Ferrari 812 Superfast: 7:27.48

Oct 16, 2019 | 02:45 PM

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That didn’t take long to get moved.... lol

Oct 16, 2019 | 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TopspeedPT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nblOLdCUzA0

Sport Auto:

.....................Porsche 991.2 GT2 RS: 6:58.28 (Cup2 R)
............................Ferrari 488 Pista: 7:00.03 (Cup2 R)
.....................Porsche 991.2 GT3 RS: 7:05.41 (Cup2 R)
..................Mercedes-AMG GT R Pro: 7:06.60 (Cup2 ZP)
...Lamborghini Huracán Performante: 7:07.99 (Trofeo R)
.................................McLaren 720S: 7:08.34 (P Zero Corsa)
...............................McLaren 600LT: 7:08.82 (Trofeo R)
Porsche 991 GT3 RS Manthey-Racing: 7:09.59 (Cup2 N0)
........................Mercedes-AMG GT R: 7:10.92
...........Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C7): 7:13.90
....................Porsche 991.2 Turbo S: 7:17.11
..........................Porsche 991.2 GT3: 7:18.20
..............................Ferrari 488 GTB: 7:21.63
..............Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS: 7:23.77
......................Ferrari 812 Superfast: 7:27.48

Thanks for posting

Oct 16, 2019 | 03:21 PM

#81

enduro911

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Originally Posted by TopspeedPT

Thanks for posting! Nice improvement over the standard GTB, although I'm sure a decent amount of that is down to the tires.

- Do they provide some detail to give the reader comfort this isn't a Ferrari press car?
- Can anyone confirm whether there were any abnormalities during the laps of the first 5-6 cars (i.e. wet on a particular part of the circuit, unusually hot or cold)?

Oct 16, 2019 | 03:37 PM

#82

DE-RS2018

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Quote:

Originally Posted by drdonger

https://youtu.be/N2Opne_k3Og

Very impressive lap time on the new MPSC2 R’s.

Look at the Sport Auto Supertest on the NRB...All Cars on best possible tires with a pro racing driver:

GT2RS: 6.58
Pista: 7.00
GT3RS: 7.05
Huracan Perf: 7.08

Oct 16, 2019 | 09:22 PM

#83

mdrums

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Wait....a 991.2 GT3...regular ole GT3 is faster than a Ferrari 488GTB???? I thought i'd seen other tests and the 488gtb was faster than .2 GT3.....hummm

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Oct 17, 2019 | 10:36 AM

#84

fskof

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Originally Posted by mdrums

Wait....a 991.2 GT3...regular ole GT3 is faster than a Ferrari 488GTB???? I thought i'd seen other tests and the 488gtb was faster than .2 GT3.....hummm

On that day on that particular track with that driver the GT3 was faster.

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