Salj

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70K for a pick up truck, lol
Buy the Ram Rebel at HALF the price.

destaccado

Well they're definitely making the motor. It's gotta find its way into something...

mooty

matt
\u are not getting it right
cool factor: would be pull up to fairmont hotel in my dually and just block the drive way.
parking: i had never had issue parking in SF financial district for 8 years. i used the sidewalk, their tow truck cant move it. they tried.
cj has raptor connnection, ring him up. but that's a truck for kids not real man.

orthojoe

Matt,

The thought of getting a raptor crossed my mind when I was ordering my F150, but in the end I decided no for the following reasons:

1) I don't off road. Kinda like getting a GT3 and never tracking it
2) I couldn't option the raptor with the 3rd seat up front (seating 6 was crucial to fit my family and parents if we all go out together)
3) Towing capacity is less than my 3.5L supercrew
4) lower gas mileage (I DD the truck)
5) dealers and their stupid markups

The only reason I thought about the raptor is purely because it looked cool. In the end, I couldn't justify it. I have to say I really love my F150 supercrew lariat, though. It is better for long family trips than the E350 wagon. 36 gallon tank that takes 87 octane gas too. The con is the size of the truck. I suck at parking it. A 360 camera would be nice, but as you said, it bumps up the price of the car substantially (almost 7k iirc) because of the other packages required.


To answer your questions wrt to what I know about my F150 lariat:

1. towing my open trailer and racecar + hauling tires and tools (that part is a pain in cayenne)

Should be better with F150. The short bed is plenty.

2. driving 200 miles to tahoe

It's better than the E350 wagon. I'll bet it's better than the cayenne too.

3. parking at grocery store and costco

easier with the cayenne

4. driving with my dog to go hiking

F150 wins. So much room in the back seat and they fold up too. Family and dog love the back seat of my Lariat supercrew

5. the old home depot run

F150 wins as well

I personally would much rather have a F150 Lariat over a cayenne. Any day of the week.

carz80am

So, I had 2 of the older raptors, one of which was a roush raptor. Look cool, nice ride. I've since moved on to Tundra's. Had a limited and currently have a tundra trd pro. Tundra's feel way more stable and the towing is better.

audipwr1

This is helpful, I dont DE my RS either so I am likely ok to be a poser here :-)

The issue is getting one today at MSRP, I have a build slot at MSRP after a day of work, local CA dealers think they can get 5k mark ups - no thanks

orthofrancis

Audipwr - consider getting a diesel F250 It'll probably be cheaper than the Raptor (70k VS 50K) more reliable, tows better ( 8,000 vs 18,000 pounds), and will last to 1 million miles. Getting a Raptor and not off-roading - so why bother...

I own a F150 (not a Raptor) short bed crew cab. The Raptor makes 510 Ft lbs torque
Pro - short bed makes it easier to park/maneuver
Con - shorter beds make for less stable towing.

I am selling the F150, and getting a F250 Diesel - long bed, W/ 5th wheel towing. Torque on the diesel is 950! (need it to tow my wife's monster dressage horses, and eventually I will buy an enclosed trailer)

Maybe the F250 diesel will be overkill for your usage - I dunno, but diesels are the best for towing - other SUV/engines are a compromise.. Ford is now making a new 3L diesel - I'd hold of on buying that, as they just started making them.

chance

NWFreerider

I have owned a lot of trucks as I use one as my daily driver and for towing/hauling anything and everything. I bought a Raptor last spring and sold it within 6 months. As many have said, they are not made for towing due to the soft suspension, but even worse than the suspension are the brakes. I commonly tow a boat weighing around 6k with trailer which is well under what the Raptor is rated at. The biggest complaint on Raptor Forums is the mushy brakes, which pretty much suck even when not towing, so I know it wasn't just my truck. Cool truck to be used in the desert or going to Starbucks..... leave the towing to a Duramax.

mooty

Duramax : YES

audipwr1

Thanks

Buying some a diesel to tow an open car trailer seems overkill to me and I am lucky to get to the track 8x per year as is, but the brakes thing is concerning

Sounds like pads may help a bit?

redmonkey928

Not sure if this helps or not - but a neighbor of mine got the new gen Raptor and traded in his prior gen Raptor. Love that truck for the stance, what Ford built if for, etc.

Have looked at getting one a couple times as I had a GMC 1500 - ultimately decided on a 3500 Denali Duramax for a lot of the reason you mentioned above:
- Space for bikes in the back, short beds are not always great for that
- Towing capacity needs and had some uncertainty about the Raptor and how its suspension would do with a longer haul enclosed trailer behind it
- 3500 diesel vs. Raptor for a DD and parking, both equally bad but happy with the one ton thus far and feel it would've been the same with the Raptor

If you do end with the Raptor, please jump it once w/photos

shapiroeric

Best truck I've ever owned. Hands down. Have 22K miles on it since last February and has exceeded all expectations. Great daily and good on the highway and especially in the snow. Drove an hour in a blizzard at 70 mph like it was nothing.

I can't comment on towing as I don't. As far as Costco it's perfect. You won't be disappointed

consolidated

Yep, best truck ever for me. Hilarious fun to drive and throw around at speed with all that travel and terrain tires. Plush for a truck because of that 12". It's wide but shorter than my last two trucks (RAM w/6' bed, F250), which were a PITA to park. Fast, comfortable for long trips, kids love it, looks even better dirty, not washed mine since Christmas. And fast.