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Old 02-18-2020, 01:21 AM
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https://electrek.co/2020/02/17/porsc...arage-florida/

No details yet on what happened to cause the issue.
Old 02-18-2020, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokerhobo
https://electrek.co/2020/02/17/porsc...arage-florida/

No details yet on what happened to cause the issue.
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/a...ge-141151.html
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Old 02-18-2020, 11:41 AM
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Old 02-18-2020, 11:50 AM
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Wrong gauge wiring would be my bet. Pulling 40 amps through wire rated for 20-30 amps does not equal a positive outcome.
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Originally Posted by Toby Pennycuff
Wrong gauge wiring would be my bet. Pulling 40 amps through wire rated for 20-30 amps does not equal a positive outcome.
That would have been my guess. However, most of the garage structure remains intact. You would think if it was electrical wiring in the garage, the Taycan would have only been moderately damaged while the garage structure would have been worse. In this case, the Taycan is completely destroyed and looks like it burned fast relative to the surrounding. If you look up pictures of other garage wiring fires from EV's, the cars themselves remain fairly intact.

Having said that, cars catch on fire. Porsche had the 991.1 GT3, and many other automakers have had incidents (both electric and ICE). It could also be a one off situation, or even something started the fire inside the car that was unrelated.

I'm confident Porsche will do what's right.
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And where is that Taycan fanboy that was ripping Tesla because of fires. Bet he is quiet now.

I am sure they will work it out just like all cars and the first production year.
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All cars ICE or EV have a massive amount of highly volatile potential energy stored in a very concentrated small space.

This can happen to all cars and does not usually represent a systemic flaw. It will be interesting to follow the investigation.

​​​​​​In the case of EVs only thing that any auto OEMs can do is to develop systems to reduce the probability of thermal runaway from happening through damage or defects in the battery.

As more EVs hit the streets it will be interesting to see the data as if battery fires are going to pose a greater than normal risk compared to traditional ICE vehicles. One thing is for sure is this is not very good PR for electrification.

As more manufactures electrify it will be interesting to discover the safety margins of pouch vs cylindrical cells as it relates to usage in a high vibration high mechanical stress environment.

​​​​​Pouch cells offer the advantages of greater packing density and much better modularity. The disadvantage is that a plastic pouch does not have its own structure and is more prone to damage than a much stronger aluminum cylinder. Thus is physically more susceptible to mechanical damage.

The other issue is cell isolation. Pouch cells are generally much much larger than an 18650 cell. If one cell has an internal short due to a defect it will release all of its energy and produce a lot of heat and will cause thermal runaway of the entire battery pack. Whereas a single 18650 with a defect will release a lot less energy and will more likely isolate itself from the rest of the battery pack.





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lol, that article must have been written by a bot or something.
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Originally Posted by goin2drt
And where is that Taycan fanboy that was ripping Tesla because of fires. Bet he is quiet now.

I am sure they will work it out just like all cars and the first production year.
Or it had nothing to do with the car and it was a bad wiring job that would have torched a Tesla just as fast. The investigation will provide the answers soon enough. And like Tesla, if the problem was not the car, no one will care or report it.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/18/elec...-confirms.html
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I guess I'm not surprised that the article mentioned Tesla more than Taycan (5 to 4). I guess I should be more surprised Tesla wasn't mentioned in the title.
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Originally Posted by Pokerhobo
https://electrek.co/2020/02/17/porsc...arage-florida/

No details yet on what happened to cause the issue.
Oopsies

Maybe they shouldn't have sourced the batteries and charging system from that hoverboard manufacturer. How many have they put into service in Germany? Seems they would want to spend a year selling them there first before selling in their #1 market.

Doesn't matter. Saw one at the Porsche Experience Center. It's stunning.
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I can remember a long period of time that "new" cars didn't spontaneously burst into flames. Plenty have gone up due to shoddy maintenance and repair after being driven for a decade but "new" cars going up in flames seems to be a problem that needs to be looked into currently. As a car owner for almost 4 decades none of the ones I have owned just burst into flames while sitting unused. Not even the ****ty used ones I bought.


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