Thoughts on Rivian vs Lightning?
10-03-2023, 05:44 PM
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Drifting
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Thoughts on Rivian vs Lightning?
I'm looking to retire my old work truck. It's mainly for restaurant use (Supplies and Equipment). No construction or contractor use. 10-12MPG and never ending maintenance (Bushings, Control Arms, Suspension etc) is beginning to really bother me. Spending thousands a year to keeping it going and it's falling into neglect mode. Several components on last threads. Wobbles and vibrations. 260k mile Toyota owned for 12 years. Battery range isn't an issue.
Any EV guys know how Rivian's QC is? Any known major issues or horror stories? Thinking R1S or R1T.
For the Lightning I'm seeing glowing reviews on one half and the other half bash the thing to pieces. You know how that goes, especially with the Ford die hard fanatics.
Which one would you choose?
Any EV guys know how Rivian's QC is? Any known major issues or horror stories? Thinking R1S or R1T.
For the Lightning I'm seeing glowing reviews on one half and the other half bash the thing to pieces. You know how that goes, especially with the Ford die hard fanatics.
Which one would you choose?
10-03-2023, 06:38 PM
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I'm looking to retire my old work truck. It's mainly for restaurant use (Supplies and Equipment). No construction or contractor use. 10-12MPG and never ending maintenance (Bushings, Control Arms, Suspension etc) is beginning to really bother me. Spending thousands a year to keeping it going and it's falling into neglect mode. Several components on last threads. Wobbles and vibrations. 260k mile Toyota owned for 12 years. Battery range isn't an issue.
Any EV guys know how Rivian's QC is? Any known major issues or horror stories? Thinking R1S or R1T.
For the Lightning I'm seeing glowing reviews on one half and the other half bash the thing to pieces. You know how that goes, especially with the Ford die hard fanatics.
Which one would you choose?
Any EV guys know how Rivian's QC is? Any known major issues or horror stories? Thinking R1S or R1T.
For the Lightning I'm seeing glowing reviews on one half and the other half bash the thing to pieces. You know how that goes, especially with the Ford die hard fanatics.
Which one would you choose?
10-03-2023, 08:48 PM
#3
The R1T looks to be a great truck that will actually fit in most garages.
RIS: make sure you drive it and sit in the second row seats whilst being driven to make sure you are OK with the ride.
RIS: make sure you drive it and sit in the second row seats whilst being driven to make sure you are OK with the ride.
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911dude41 (10-03-2023)
10-03-2023, 09:49 PM
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Burning Brakes
I see a lot of Rivians on the roads here in Silicon Valley. Not very many Lightnings. People who have Rivians really seem to like them. One big difference is the Rivian was designed from scratch as an EV, whereas the Lightning is basically a F150 EV conversion.
First time I saw a Lightning in person, was in a parking lot where there are a few L2 charging stations. It was parked in one of the spots. I was grumbling to myself about how some dufus F150 owner was ICEing the spot, then noticed it was a Lightning and plugged in!
First time I saw a Lightning in person, was in a parking lot where there are a few L2 charging stations. It was parked in one of the spots. I was grumbling to myself about how some dufus F150 owner was ICEing the spot, then noticed it was a Lightning and plugged in!
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911dude41 (10-03-2023)
10-03-2023, 11:38 PM
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Drifting
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I see a lot of Rivians on the roads here in Silicon Valley. Not very many Lightnings. People who have Rivians really seem to like them. One big difference is the Rivian was designed from scratch as an EV, whereas the Lightning is basically a F150 EV conversion.
First time I saw a Lightning in person, was in a parking lot where there are a few L2 charging stations. It was parked in one of the spots. I was grumbling to myself about how some dufus F150 owner was ICEing the spot, then noticed it was a Lightning and plugged in!
First time I saw a Lightning in person, was in a parking lot where there are a few L2 charging stations. It was parked in one of the spots. I was grumbling to myself about how some dufus F150 owner was ICEing the spot, then noticed it was a Lightning and plugged in!
10-04-2023, 12:38 AM
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I'm looking to retire my old work truck. It's mainly for restaurant use (Supplies and Equipment). No construction or contractor use. 10-12MPG and never ending maintenance (Bushings, Control Arms, Suspension etc) is beginning to really bother me. Spending thousands a year to keeping it going and it's falling into neglect mode. Several components on last threads. Wobbles and vibrations. 260k mile Toyota owned for 12 years. Battery range isn't an issue.
Any EV guys know how Rivian's QC is? Any known major issues or horror stories? Thinking R1S or R1T.
For the Lightning I'm seeing glowing reviews on one half and the other half bash the thing to pieces. You know how that goes, especially with the Ford die hard fanatics.
Which one would you choose?
Any EV guys know how Rivian's QC is? Any known major issues or horror stories? Thinking R1S or R1T.
For the Lightning I'm seeing glowing reviews on one half and the other half bash the thing to pieces. You know how that goes, especially with the Ford die hard fanatics.
Which one would you choose?
10-04-2023, 10:31 AM
#7
Rivian repairs might be out of control and thus insurance rates might go through the roof:
It does not seem like car has been designed for repairs. 🤦♂️
It does not seem like car has been designed for repairs. 🤦♂️
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10-04-2023, 01:27 PM
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https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/th...22/post-261623
10-04-2023, 01:34 PM
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Burning Brakes
Rivian is more of a unibody construction (think Honda Ridgeline), whereas Lightning is classic body/frame/bed construction.
If cold weather is a concern, neither have heat pump based heating. Though Ford is starting to introduce it in its 2024 models. (Both Silverado EV and upcoming Cybertruck have heat pump systems from the start.)
Ford has a cool power port option. Fairly high power inverter with a bunch of receptacles in the bed - including a L14-30 (120/240V, 30 amps) which can allow it to be used as a partial emergency home backup.
From what I've read, Rivian wins in infotainment.
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911dude41 (10-04-2023)
10-04-2023, 03:09 PM
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I have an R1S and the latest software update drastically improved the ride comfort. Love my Rivian.
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10-04-2023, 04:40 PM
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Rivian repairs might be out of control and thus insurance rates might go through the roof: https://youtu.be/DKPfy5djvLc?si=EhunlrlLNZwb7oLJ
It does not seem like car has been designed for repairs. 🤦♂️
It does not seem like car has been designed for repairs. 🤦♂️
Good thing that can't happen with a Taycan, huh?? Oh wait...:
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/th...22/post-261623
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/th...22/post-261623
A couple more thoughts:
Rivian is more of a unibody construction (think Honda Ridgeline), whereas Lightning is classic body/frame/bed construction.
If cold weather is a concern, neither have heat pump based heating. Though Ford is starting to introduce it in its 2024 models. (Both Silverado EV and upcoming Cybertruck have heat pump systems from the start.)
Ford has a cool power port option. Fairly high power inverter with a bunch of receptacles in the bed - including a L14-30 (120/240V, 30 amps) which can allow it to be used as a partial emergency home backup.
From what I've read, Rivian wins in infotainment.
Rivian is more of a unibody construction (think Honda Ridgeline), whereas Lightning is classic body/frame/bed construction.
If cold weather is a concern, neither have heat pump based heating. Though Ford is starting to introduce it in its 2024 models. (Both Silverado EV and upcoming Cybertruck have heat pump systems from the start.)
Ford has a cool power port option. Fairly high power inverter with a bunch of receptacles in the bed - including a L14-30 (120/240V, 30 amps) which can allow it to be used as a partial emergency home backup.
From what I've read, Rivian wins in infotainment.
Seem like the new 2023 models lack a 12v outlet anywhere in the front (Rivian) but the 2022 models have them.
10-05-2023, 06:45 AM
#12
Instructor
RIvian loses $32K on every vehicle they build. Reality sets in at some point. Hard to see them making it after they burn through their cash. https://www.motortrend.com/news/rivi...s-per-vehicle/
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10-05-2023, 10:27 AM
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RIvian loses $32K on every vehicle they build. Reality sets in at some point. Hard to see them making it after they burn through their cash. https://www.motortrend.com/news/rivi...s-per-vehicle/
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10-05-2023, 11:06 AM
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RIvian loses $32K on every vehicle they build. Reality sets in at some point. Hard to see them making it after they burn through their cash. https://www.motortrend.com/news/rivi...s-per-vehicle/
10-05-2023, 11:42 AM
#15
Agreed. I don't need a truck - have never been a truck guy at all, but I've come thisclose to buying a Rivian anyway. The product is indeed that compelling!