Archimedes

Definitely not a Panny body and also definitely not how it's gonna look when uncamflouged with property equipment, stance, wheels. Generally, I think it's about what I expected in terms of a production version of the car and I expected the trim and wheels will make it look a lot sleeker than the Panny. I think the rear view especially looks great. Nice haunches.

Anyone who expects a dirty, black, camo'd, mismatched wheel, test car will ever look great is expecting too much. That car, in white, properly trimmed and wheeled could look positively epic.

orthofrancis

Not many 4 door cars have gone to production with full size suicide doors. Maybe the 1960 Lincoln Continental, and a Rolls (Phantom?)

I was hoping that it's the chassis with a Panamera body covering it for a mule, but then why bother to go through the motion of disguising a Panny?

I am amused by the fake tail exhaust pipes.

Cloudplay

It's obviously not a Panamera body. You are saying they would build at least four identical cars with a fully detailed new design/body style (new sheet metal, doors, headlights, taillights, mirrors, bumpers, door handles, glass etc) that is not essentially the final design? Comon, indeed.

Nacelle

Totally agree with you... a little underwhelming

RealityGT

You still haven't explained how this is a pre-prod vehicle.. You have no clue what it is, yet you are certain... COMON!

Cloudplay

Instead of insulting me, why don't educate us about your interpretation of the state of Mission E development and how the final product will be different from is seen here (other than camo, wheels and maybe stance)? What are we looking at, if not a car with essentially the final design under the camouflage? Or do you agree with that, and just take exception at my use of "pre-production"? Look at the pictures, take your time, may take a bit longer than throwing around random emojis.

RealityGT

Now you're asking questions? You said this was pre-prod.. You haven't answered how you know this is a pre-production Mission E... I don't jump to conclusions.. But you obviously know what porsche is doing so please enlighten us all..

FYI, new facility being built.. tooling etc..

Cloudplay

Why do I think this is a "pre-production" Mission E?

- It's electric (fake exhaust, being benchmarked against Tesla S, X)
- It's not a hacked Panamera test mule (different doors, different roofline, completely different and apparently production-ready details)
- It's not a one-off prototype (there are four of them in one of the pictures)
- Mission E base price is supposed to be similar to Panamera, changes compared to the concept are consistent with that (no suicide doors, reshaped front spoiler, side skirts, regular rearview mirrors)
- Mission E is supposed to appear in 2019, state of prototype cars is consistent with that (light to medium camo + tape, similar to 992 prototypes from a few month ago; consistent with the expected on-sale date)

I can't imagine that Porsche would be testing a four-door electric prototype that is in the right size and (probably) price bracket stated for the Mission E production version, has an overall shape that is close to the Mission E concept (toned down for the real world) and is in the right stage of development for a 2019 on-sale date, but somehow is unrelated to the Mission E.

All the facts are out there, feel free to explain which ones you interpret differently.

RealityGT

Fact: none of this legitimately points to the ME production vehicle.. The new GT3 had various iterations before they settled on the 4l engine.. none of the TEST MULES were actually a pre-prod vehicle.. FACT

How can you be so sure that they aren't simply using this to test the drivetrain or other components?
Maybe this was a test-mule, panny model that they simply retrofitted?

I can draw conclusions as well.. but I would rather wait for Porsche to tell me what the end product design will be.. Why? because I am on a waiting list for one ...

Walt L

Oh God NO!!!!!!!
NOT THAT!!!!!
PLEASE!!!!!!!!

lowpue

I am so with you on this....I was going to buy one but not if it looks so similar to the fouyr door today. Really disappointing. The concept was spectacular and I was willing to pay $200K for that thing. Now with the spy shots, 85K is far too much.

GT6ixer

I think everybody is putting too much stock in these spy shots. When was the last time you saw a spy photo of a camouflaged new production model and said to yourself,"Yeah, I'd buy that"? There is a lot they can do to camouflage beyond they obvious things you can see. Almost every panel can be changed. Creating protoytpe/mule/camo tooling is not a big deal, even for 4 cars. It's pennies on the dollar compared to production tooling. I'm going to reserve my judgement for when they start showing up on the lot and I can see one up close in real light.

RONGLOS

Am I missing something? This looks nothing like the concept Mission E. I am very disappointed. If this is it I'm glad to keep my 991.2. Porsche needs to eliminate any evidence of a concept car if this is the production Mission E.

RONGLOS

[QUOTE=GT6ixer;14522569]I think everybody is putting too much stock in these spy shots. When was the last time you saw a spy photo of a camouflaged new production model and said to yourself,"Yeah, I'd buy that"? There is a lot they can do to camouflage beyond they obvious things you can see. Almost every panel can be changed. Creating protoytpe/mule/camo tooling is not a big deal, even for 4 cars. It's pennies on the dollar compared to production tooling. I'm going to reserve my judgement for when they start showing up on the lot and I can see one up close in real light.

I hope you are right.

lowpue

ditto