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Indy300 02-12-2024 02:38 PM

Fractured Lifting Point
 
So, I was raising my 2015 Macan the other day and one of the front lifting points cracked! Has that ever happened to anyone else? I was not able to get a good look at it to figure out if they are easily replaceable. I have never had that happen on my 911's and Cayenne.

wwahl 02-12-2024 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by Indy300 (Post 19275274)
So, I was raising my 2015 Macan the other day and one of the front lifting points cracked! Has that ever happened to anyone else? I was not able to get a good look at it to figure out if they are easily replaceable. I have never had that happen on my 911's and Cayenne.

Did you have a hockey puck, or equivalent, between the jack and the car lift point?

#1SomeGuy 02-12-2024 11:59 PM

I've heard it's fairly common, the lifting points kinda suck on the Macan to be honest.

Type 2 02-13-2024 01:39 AM

Use a Custom Jack Pad; Yes Lrfting Points Relpacement are DIY
 
OP: "So, I was raising my 2015 Macan the other day and one of the front lifting points cracked! Has that ever happened to anyone else? I was not able to get a good look at it to figure out if they are easily replaceable."

I broke two lifting points front and rear (Porsche part name, "Jacking Point Front [or Rear], Jack Socket." Replaced the broken lifting points DIY, and purchased two after-market jacking pads with rectangular socket made to fit into the wide grove of the Macan's lifting point. See attached image of parts page and jack pad ("fair use" of one page only for reader information, credit: Porsche Altanta Perimeter Parts). Yes, I usuallly use a hockey puck, but with the exterior plastic face bottom sill so close to the plastic jack point, I was concerned that the puck/jack could shift while jacking and break the lower exterior piece which runs for wheel well to wheel well. All four of the lift points have a different part number. The part prices were 2018. Type 2

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5892e0b93a.jpg

Part page and after-market jack pad with rectangular socket for Macan lift point. Parts page credit: Porsche Atlanta Perimeter Parts.

Indy300 02-13-2024 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Type 2 (Post 19276343)
OP: "So, I was raising my 2015 Macan the other day and one of the front lifting points cracked! Has that ever happened to anyone else? I was not able to get a good look at it to figure out if they are easily replaceable."

I broke two lifting points front and rear (Porsche part name, "Jacking Point Front [or Rear], Jack Socket." Replaced the broken lifting points DIY, and purchased two after-market jacking pads with rectangular socket made to fit into the wide grove of the Macan's lifting point. See attached image of parts page and jack pad ("fair use" of one page only for reader information, credit: Porsche Altanta Perimeter Parts). Yes, I usuallly use a hockey puck, but with the exterior plastic face bottom sill so close to the plastic jack point, I was concerned that the puck/jack could shift while jacking and break the lower exterior piece which runs for wheel well to wheel well. All four of the lift points have a different part number. The part prices were 2018. Type 2



Part page and after-market jack pad with rectangular socket for Macan lift point. Parts page credit: Porsche Atlanta Perimeter Parts.

Thanks for all the info!! When it broke, I was not using a pad or block to protect it.

siberian 02-14-2024 03:22 PM

My left rear also caved in. Crap design alas and yes I was using a puck

siberian

wingless 02-14-2024 07:21 PM

My vehicle has been lifted many times at the exposed rocker panel lifting point pockets w/ zero degradation of the vehicle's lifting point pockets.

My setup uses ratcheting jack stands and the Rennstand 18M-P13 Macan jack pad.

My setup also includes universal adapters, permitting usage on other vehicles.


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wingless 02-14-2024 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by wingless (Post 19279762)
My vehicle has been lifted many times at the exposed rocker panel lifting point pockets w/ zero degradation of the vehicle's lifting point pockets.

My setup uses ratcheting jack stands and the Rennstand 18M-P13 Macan jack pad.


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4e59f511_c.jpg

There are also four lifting points that are "hidden" behind removable covers.

This Rennstand 18M-P08jack pad adapter appears correct for usage w/ that hidden lifting point.

My selection of the rocker panel lifting points over the hidden lifting points was purely for speed and convenience, to not have to remove / replace those covers.


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wingless 02-14-2024 10:40 PM

Sorry for my being "a little slow coming to the party", but for those using hockey pucks and other adapters for lifting the vehicle, onto what is the vehicle lowered to permit safe service operations, not supported elevated only by a jack? How is that accomplished?

Indy300 02-15-2024 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by wingless (Post 19280077)
Sorry for my being "a little slow coming to the party", but for those using hockey pucks and other adapters for lifting the vehicle, onto what is the vehicle lowered to permit safe service operations, not supported elevated only by a jack? How is that accomplished?

I use these at all four corners. easy up, easy down.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...562861b05d.png



wingless 02-15-2024 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by Indy300 (Post 19280451)
I use these at all four corners. easy up, easy down.

That Powerbuilt Unijack combination jack / jackstand looks like a very safe lifting method, w/ a 4K lbs capacity and a lifting range from 8-5/8" to 18-5/8".

It may be possible to arrive at a compatible interface to the Macan body.

The Unijack has a saddle top, perfect for contacting an exterior rib, like a vehicle frame, but less ideal for an internal pocket, like on the Macan.

Perhaps something like a thick wall 1" square tube cut to over 2" long might be a safe / secure / appropriate interface between the Macan lift pocket and the Unijack saddle. A quick vehicle measurement shows there is probably sufficient vertical clearance for that setup at front and rear.

Indy300 02-15-2024 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by wingless (Post 19280547)
That Powerbuilt Unijack combination jack / jackstand looks like a very safe lifting method, w/ a 4K lbs capacity and a lifting range from 8-5/8" to 18-5/8".

It may be possible to arrive at a compatible interface to the Macan body.

The Unijack has a saddle top, perfect for contacting an exterior rib, like a vehicle frame, but less ideal for an internal pocket, like on the Macan.

Perhaps something like a thick wall 1" square tube cut to over 2" long might be a safe / secure / appropriate interface between the Macan lift pocket and the Unijack saddle. A quick vehicle measurement shows there is probably sufficient vertical clearance for that setup at front and rear.

I usually use a 2x4 between unijack and lifting block. The flanges of the unijack dig into the wood and it is all pretty stable.

wingless 02-15-2024 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by wingless (Post 19280547)
That Powerbuilt Unijack combination jack / jackstand looks like a very safe lifting method, w/ a 4K lbs capacity and a lifting range from 8-5/8" to 18-5/8".

It may be possible to arrive at a compatible interface to the Macan body.

The Unijack has a saddle top, perfect for contacting an exterior rib, like a vehicle frame, but less ideal for an internal pocket, like on the Macan.

Perhaps something like a thick wall 1" square tube cut to over 2" long might be a safe / secure / appropriate interface between the Macan lift pocket and the Unijack saddle. A quick vehicle measurement shows there is probably sufficient vertical clearance for that setup at front and rear.


Originally Posted by Indy300 (Post 19280873)
I usually use a 2x4 between unijack and lifting block. The flanges of the unijack dig into the wood and it is all pretty stable.

Zero doubt about the setup stability.

The OP topic is about vehicle damage.

Clearly usage of lifting using a 2x4 scrap across the Macan jack pocket results in vehicle damage.

Switching from a 2x4 board across the jack pocket to an appropriately sized device inserted into the pocket, or a device specifically designed for the pocket, should prevent damage to the vehicle.

These Pelican images show that pocket and the concealed lifting point.

As was stated my vehicle has been lifted many times by me, at the lifting pockets, using appropriately sized inserts, w/ zero vehicle damage.

Why not post images showing the jack point pockets, damaged by lifting w/ a 2x4 board interface?


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Indy300 02-15-2024 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by wingless (Post 19281025)

Why not post images showing the jack point pockets, damaged by lifting w/ a 2x4 board interface?

It was damaged when I was not using a 2x4. A 2x4 spreads the load out across the jacking surface. That is the way to go.

jbx2 02-15-2024 05:34 PM

I've installed the VW lifting point pads in the hidden locations. There was one that I couldn't get but forget why. Maybe the gas tank was in the way.


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