Macan EV: 2025 Porsche Macan EV Prototype Drive: Porsche’s Future Is Upon Us
01-21-2024, 01:33 AM
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01-22-2024, 10:34 AM
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We have never lived in a time where people can be so uneducated and feel so empowered.
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misteralz (01-23-2024)
01-22-2024, 01:52 PM
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It's a 2-fold issue for me: https://edmontonsun.com/opinion/lett...-frosty-to-evs which and https://www.consumerreports.org/cars...s-a1047214174/
While the cold issue won't affect the vast majority of EV owners, I'd say climate is a consideration for those that live in areas where it does get into severe cold temps. Where I am, the elec company's service is already taxed, so adding EVs doesn't make things easier on the grid. They should have started building NPPs years ago and this would be a non-issue, but as always - cart then horse.
Ultimately, my view is simple: You do you. If someone wants an EV, go for it. I like ICE and won't be touching EV anytime soon.
While the cold issue won't affect the vast majority of EV owners, I'd say climate is a consideration for those that live in areas where it does get into severe cold temps. Where I am, the elec company's service is already taxed, so adding EVs doesn't make things easier on the grid. They should have started building NPPs years ago and this would be a non-issue, but as always - cart then horse.
Ultimately, my view is simple: You do you. If someone wants an EV, go for it. I like ICE and won't be touching EV anytime soon.
01-22-2024, 03:14 PM
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It's going to get so much worse.
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misteralz (01-23-2024)
01-29-2024, 01:40 PM
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We can liken the rollout of EVs to that of mobile phones. As with so much these days, the consumer has to rely not only on the hardware in his possession, but also some network to enable the use of that hardware. In the early days, mobile phone network coverage was spotty. Rural customers hung onto their landlines. A couple decades later... things are totally different. My mother who is 80 dropped her land line. Are the devices and networks perfect for everyone? Of course not. Despite advertising all the crap you can waste your time doing on a mobile device, manufacturers still don't make a phone that can play YouTube videos, navigate your car, update your followers, game constantly and talk on all your social platforms for a week straight without recharging. They haven't even tried. The device manufacturers have, however, spent tons of effort enabling faster recharging and safer batteries.
If you demand to be able to drive 400+ miles without recharging, you may never be satisfied. Everyone else on the planet will plan a potty break and a meal somewhere in that 400 miles. In the civilized world, the demand for chargers will be met by increasing charging choices. We know this because the demand for mobile phone towers are meeting your needs today ... even in some quite remote regions. It's good to have choice. Because in less than another generation, the price of imported Saudi dinosaur juice isn't going to be looking like a very wise economic option.
01-29-2024, 02:46 PM
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You're on one extreme of the bell curve. Just because EVs aren't up your alley doesn't mean that the capabilities of this particular vehicle aren't more than adequate for the vast majority of affluent urbanites who will charge their vehicles in their garages and don't take their EVs on epic overland adventures. Statistics are very clear about how far people drive, and Porsche has absolutely done its homework. It also goes without saying that this European vehicle design aligns to its home market first and foremost.
We can liken the rollout of EVs to that of mobile phones. As with so much these days, the consumer has to rely not only on the hardware in his possession, but also some network to enable the use of that hardware. In the early days, mobile phone network coverage was spotty. Rural customers hung onto their landlines. A couple decades later... things are totally different. My mother who is 80 dropped her land line. Are the devices and networks perfect for everyone? Of course not. Despite advertising all the crap you can waste your time doing on a mobile device, manufacturers still don't make a phone that can play YouTube videos, navigate your car, update your followers, game constantly and talk on all your social platforms for a week straight without recharging. They haven't even tried. The device manufacturers have, however, spent tons of effort enabling faster recharging and safer batteries.
If you demand to be able to drive 400+ miles without recharging, you may never be satisfied. Everyone else on the planet will plan a potty break and a meal somewhere in that 400 miles. In the civilized world, the demand for chargers will be met by increasing charging choices. We know this because the demand for mobile phone towers are meeting your needs today ... even in some quite remote regions. It's good to have choice. Because in less than another generation, the price of imported Saudi dinosaur juice isn't going to be looking like a very wise economic option.
We can liken the rollout of EVs to that of mobile phones. As with so much these days, the consumer has to rely not only on the hardware in his possession, but also some network to enable the use of that hardware. In the early days, mobile phone network coverage was spotty. Rural customers hung onto their landlines. A couple decades later... things are totally different. My mother who is 80 dropped her land line. Are the devices and networks perfect for everyone? Of course not. Despite advertising all the crap you can waste your time doing on a mobile device, manufacturers still don't make a phone that can play YouTube videos, navigate your car, update your followers, game constantly and talk on all your social platforms for a week straight without recharging. They haven't even tried. The device manufacturers have, however, spent tons of effort enabling faster recharging and safer batteries.
If you demand to be able to drive 400+ miles without recharging, you may never be satisfied. Everyone else on the planet will plan a potty break and a meal somewhere in that 400 miles. In the civilized world, the demand for chargers will be met by increasing charging choices. We know this because the demand for mobile phone towers are meeting your needs today ... even in some quite remote regions. It's good to have choice. Because in less than another generation, the price of imported Saudi dinosaur juice isn't going to be looking like a very wise economic option.
Obviously, the hope is that solid state's extra energy density gets us to 400+ for the same weight as the current Macan EV but it's likely to be 5 years away.