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Cults. Every one of them. Just another way for man (men) to control other men.
For those that can still read, pick up Sapiens by Juval Harari. Fairy tales, legends, folklore, myths.
The ‘trick’ is to have the best story. For instance, what’s the greatest story ever told? It’s not a religion. It’s MONEY! Not everyone believes in god. But everyone believes in money. Anyone ever win a Nobel prize for religion? Nope. But a lot win the prize for…economics.
Living inside a cult state as I do I get to see some real depth as to the human need for culting. And half a world away on view is the depth of cruelty that often results. Medics in the US Army call it Hysterical Blindness. At least they did in Band of Brothers.
I drive a soon to be fully broken in 23 GTS (LOVE IT). I'm also second on the waitlist at my dealer for the EV. The one lesson I've learned from the local cult is to completely avoid religion.
Last edited by Russian Mafia; 10-13-2023 at 12:05 PM.
They were prohibited from discussing most things other than range, including performance. The only clue is at the end when the spokesman says "I can't stress enough how impressive that performance (the range) is considering the amount of power and performance you're going to get out of this vehicle."
I'd like to know the range when driven like a Porsche or during one of our cold winters. If that were to top say 225 miles, then I'll be really tempted to cash in my high waitlist position at my local dealer.
Being at the mercy of often already problematic power grids, there is zero chance I'd go for an EV. I like my ICE Macan and my ICE motorcycles - been around and proven while EVs are expensive hype - imho.
Being at the mercy of often already problematic power grids, there is zero chance I'd go for an EV. I like my ICE Macan and my ICE motorcycles - been around and proven while EVs are expensive hype - imho.
How are you going to fill up an ICE car if the grid is down?
Payment systems and the pumps need electric.
I see this argument all the time but seriously don’t get it.
If you’re plugged in at home and the power goes out, you have 300 miles of range at your disposal and with some EVs the ability to reverse charge your house.
Right now my ICE car is sitting in my driveway with 50 miles of range, we plan on filling up when we go out tonight, however in a scenario where the grid goes down around me, an EV would probably have more range and capability than most times with my ICE car at 90% or below.
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First, I don't let the tank get below half. Second, I have a ride-on mower and a power generator (generator uses propane or petrol) - so at any given time I have 5 20L jug of petrol at my home. Fail to plan, then plan to fail.
Originally Posted by ATX_Native
How are you going to fill up an ICE car if the grid is down?
Payment systems and the pumps need electric.
I see this argument all the time but seriously don’t get it.
If you’re plugged in at home and the power goes out, you have 300 miles of range at your disposal and with some EVs the ability to reverse charge your house.
Right now my ICE car is sitting in my driveway with 50 miles of range, we plan on filling up when we go out tonight, however in a scenario where the grid goes down around me, an EV would probably have more range and capability than most times with my ICE car at 90% or below.
First, I don't let the tank get below half. Second, I have a ride-on mower and a power generator (generator uses propane or petrol) - so at any given time I have 5 20L jug of petrol at my home. Fail to plan, then plan to fail.
I still don’t see how that affects anything.
If you have a grid failure around you, you aren’t going to bring your generator up to the gas station and ask to plug in their modem for their payment system and pumps to fill up your ICE tank.
In your case nothing would change, except for the potential to reverse charge your home of critical systems like your furnace and hot water heaters and to most likely to have 300 miles of range instead of 50% of whatever your ICE range is.
Depending on what you plug in to those circuits you could get 2-3 days of electrical service from a reverse charge off your EV, saving precious petrol and extending the off-grid comfortable time.
We had a grid failure in 2021 in Texas for 4 days, I never once thought it was time for a road trip.
The issue is, of course, charging infrastructure in the USA. I have no problem with EVs per se. My sister has an Audi ETron and for suburban life it makes a ton of sense as a second car. For me, they just don't work. I regularly drive from Denver to Moab UT or to Pinedale, Wyoming. During the pandemic I drove from Denver to Southampton Long Island in my Macan.
The drive to the Wind River Range in Wyoming is 505 miles with three turns. The largest town you go through is Cheyenne. I love that my 4-cylinder Macan can do that trip on one tank of gas, because it can be 80 miles or more between gas stations out there. No kids, no commute, and a passion for being in the mountains means EVs don't make any sense for me. My ICE Macan is the perfect vehicle... except when the trailhead roads get really serious. For that I have my Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, two-door, six-speed.
When was the last time you had a grid failure? In my 54 years of life I've experienced 1 actual grid failure. Point is I wouldn't factor that in as far as ICE vs EV unless you live in an area prone to power outages. I have a '24 Macan S on order and am excited, but I'll be following the EV Macan's release very closely, I have a feeling the Macan will be my swan song for ICE vehicles, not a bad way to go out.
10-12-2023, 08:40 PM
