Veloce Raptor

All true.

However, when a troll crosses the line and takes pot shots at the driving skills of innocent bystanders--when he himself is a really crappy driver who has been kicked out of dozens of groups--it isn't funny any more.

JMHO....

TD in DC

True, but it is not as if Colm is really damaged by that pot shot. I know my opinion hasn't been swayed by that.

Sean F

But what about the guy coming here for the first time - maybe from his region/at events with him?

A.Wayne

Veloce Raptor

That was my poorly-made point. The ability for crap like what emanates from Frankie Baby's pie hole to influence/damage less experienced drivers who come here is very real. Some of us can see through the BS. Some other may take his comments seriously, and our repeated responses to him as auhentication than he makes valid points.

Greg Fishman

I don't think it should be moved. Frank is showing his ***. It stands as a great example of his character, or lack of...

John H

I move that Frank's assessment automatically qualifies Colm for the HWFM Racing Team! Do I hear a second?

John H

whoops, just observed he is a memeber already.

Colm, You need a new title now, grasshopper.

Mike in Chi

Yes, Colm has been a gteammate in Good Standig for some time.
It takes true talent to drove a car like that slowly.

Mike in Chi

Yes, Colm has been a teammate in Good Standing for some time.
It takes true talent to drove a car like that slowly.

PogueMoHone

Guys

Frank took the shot publically before.

I have a good sense of my abilities and inabilities, strengths and weaknesses, fears and thrills.

No one has ever accused me of being dangerous, or slow (tentative maybe) on the track, and I have never ever been black flagged. Rumor has it I was shown the passing flag once (j/k)

I can take Frank's abuse , and live with my own track shortcomings (turtle); but bad judgement is not one of them.

If my experiences serve to give others perspective and courage to follow their instincts and rely on their own judgement, then I have had a great day.

GhettoRacer

hey Colm, i always thought you are a good guy, perhaps a bit too reserved but none the less i can tell you are an interesting person. can you speak chinese? believe it or not i had the best intentions for you that day. i didn't even care about driving your car (sure it would be nice icing on the cake). i offer to drive you in my car to show you some of things that i thought would greatly help you. you declined. i'm sure todd really wanted to help you out too. we love high performance driving and we love sharing the passion, that's why we are such track ****** and instruct so much. (well, since todd sold tracquest a while ago i'm not sure if he still track ******, haven't heard from him in couple of years)...

since we're here to talk about out true feelings, i'm just letting it all hang out. you were uncomfortable with my approach, you should've just spoken up. there's no need to beat around the bushes. be a man and stand up for yourself. i'm sure you didn't beat around the bush when it comes to your business. right?

this goes to all of you DE guys. communications is the key, any time you have concerns or issues, SPEAK UP. talk to other instructors, talk to chief instructor, or talk to the event master. being reserved gets you no where, and generally makes ppl un-happy.

Jeff Curtis

Yeah, I hear ya Ghet-OH! - but there are places one should not go, Colm may have beat around the bush (so to say) because your request made him uncomfortable...we generally don't ask Students to drive their cars, especially if it's something we can't write a check for.

Mike in Chi

"Mr Lawyer" here committing a Frances statement to the public record before Mr Integrity changes his post and denies everything.

Jeff Curtis

Wa-hahahaha, good job Mike...I thought of doing that the other day, <almost> cut/paste something that Francis said before he changed it and am kicking myself for not doing so...because he did, in fact, change it.