GT4 G81 Transmission Failure
10-30-2016, 12:24 PM
#106
I went through the the E46 BMW M3 engine blowing up deal, where rods were breaking . First BMW blamed owners then did a recall and a 100,000 mile warranty as a constellation prize. carl
10-30-2016, 02:01 PM
#108
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Can I say it now?
FK PORSCHE and their disposable car attitude at the moment. The fact you can't even see these parts in the PET and order them individually, same on the pdk, to allow for repair is bs. I mean stuff fails. Parts break. You know what? Allow parts to fix. Thanks guys like matt keep these damn things running because Porsche doesn't seem to give a sht any more.
Rant over.
FK PORSCHE and their disposable car attitude at the moment. The fact you can't even see these parts in the PET and order them individually, same on the pdk, to allow for repair is bs. I mean stuff fails. Parts break. You know what? Allow parts to fix. Thanks guys like matt keep these damn things running because Porsche doesn't seem to give a sht any more.
Rant over.
10-30-2016, 11:02 PM
#111
how safe is it to track a car that has a higher probability of 3rd gear failure? A sudden deceleration with a car immediately behind under acceleration can't be a good situation.
10-30-2016, 11:19 PM
#112
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s2ktaxi - you make a good point. I just wonder if the small number of instances compared to the number of cars out there is enough empirical evidence to think a failure is higher probability.
I don't know - that's why I'm asking. I'd be interested in opinions from some folks who have been around awhile, and experienced issues that might provide insight into where this is headed.
If it's a likely failure do we expect a recall?
Are there failures on cars that have not seen track time?
10-31-2016, 02:29 AM
#114
What I gather from this thread is as it sits now the cause is still speculation.
To summarize :
-All S ,GTS and GT4 boxes have the same ratio and welded gear hubs. Yet with the exception of one GTS all the failures seem to be GT4s. The box has been in use since 2012 why no failures from the S's?
-No one has actually seen a failed box taken apart and seen a definitive cause so it's not verified that in fact the failure is a broken weld although that certainly is a possibility .
-There has been no calculated percentage of failures VS total US cars or Vs how many are tracked.
-'No determination to a specific build period or year.
- Does it only affect cars that are tracked?
If we can gather as much data as possible it will help those that have had or may experience the problem. This is just my opinion ...Carl
To summarize :
-All S ,GTS and GT4 boxes have the same ratio and welded gear hubs. Yet with the exception of one GTS all the failures seem to be GT4s. The box has been in use since 2012 why no failures from the S's?
-No one has actually seen a failed box taken apart and seen a definitive cause so it's not verified that in fact the failure is a broken weld although that certainly is a possibility .
-There has been no calculated percentage of failures VS total US cars or Vs how many are tracked.
-'No determination to a specific build period or year.
- Does it only affect cars that are tracked?
If we can gather as much data as possible it will help those that have had or may experience the problem. This is just my opinion ...Carl
Last edited by 4carl; 10-31-2016 at 09:58 AM.
10-31-2016, 02:39 AM
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Do we have enough information to consider this a "higher probability" issue?
s2ktaxi - you make a good point. I just wonder if the small number of instances compared to the number of cars out there is enough empirical evidence to think a failure is higher probability.
I don't know - that's why I'm asking. I'd be interested in opinions from some folks who have been around awhile, and experienced issues that might provide insight into where this is headed.
If it's a likely failure do we expect a recall?
Are there failures on cars that have not seen track time?
s2ktaxi - you make a good point. I just wonder if the small number of instances compared to the number of cars out there is enough empirical evidence to think a failure is higher probability.
I don't know - that's why I'm asking. I'd be interested in opinions from some folks who have been around awhile, and experienced issues that might provide insight into where this is headed.
If it's a likely failure do we expect a recall?
Are there failures on cars that have not seen track time?
What is clear is that the problem appears not after a misuse, that gearboxes are lacking worldwide for replacement and that dealers haven't been reluctant to replace it within the guarantee.
To me the very question is: will the replacement boxes be the same or a modified one. I hope the delay (9 weeks) for delivery speaks for a modified version. Fingers crossed. But how would it be possible to know?
10-31-2016, 10:59 AM
#118
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Originally Posted by 4carl
Thanks for clarifying . So the actual gear design and construction is the same as the std 981S box but the failure is only with the GT4? Correct? Carl
10-31-2016, 11:05 AM
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