OEM 20" GT4 Bridgestone RE-71R status
07-30-2016, 01:52 PM
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Based on my experience you'll be lucky to get 4 days at Cota if you are driving HARD with lots of sessions. If I was going for a PB I would probably switch after 2 days. Regardless it's a great ride and would pick it over cup 2 any day.
FYI... I always have these heat cycled by tirerack. Im hoping it helps since I've read that is what all the cool kids do. Im on my 3rd set with only 10 total track days. Maybe I need to switch to the new 700/set kumho
FYI... I always have these heat cycled by tirerack. Im hoping it helps since I've read that is what all the cool kids do. Im on my 3rd set with only 10 total track days. Maybe I need to switch to the new 700/set kumho
07-30-2016, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jphughan
I don't time my laps, except that one time at CotA where a passenger timed me on a random lap that I mentioned in the track times thread. But even if I did, I don't see myself being willing to replace a set of tires after 2 track days even if these were to cost half what the Cup 2s do. I guess I'll just have to see how these tires do for me. They're clearly worth the experiment, and if I don't like them then at least they won't be around for very long!
Cup2 and re71r front tires only last 3 days for me, but could get 4-5 if I can get the tires to wear evenly
07-30-2016, 01:55 PM
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This is perfect timing. With my grandma track and canyon drives the front Cup 2's will be ready for replacement after my next track day. Car has 4K mile + 4 track days (one open track day/ 3 others were regular 4 session, uncounted back road drives maybe 20ish+?)
07-30-2016, 02:05 PM
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I don't time my laps, except that one time at CotA where a passenger timed me on a random lap that I mentioned in the track times thread. But even if I did, I don't see myself being willing to replace a set of tires after 2 track days even if these were to cost half what the Cup 2s do. I guess I'll just have to see how these tires do for me. They're clearly worth the experiment, and if I don't like them then at least they won't be around for very long!
07-30-2016, 03:20 PM
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07-30-2016, 03:33 PM
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Ha! Ok, well in my case it's a calculated decision. Yes, I'm well aware that I'm sacrificing some rate of progress and very likely some ultimate skill level by not timing laps and logging data. But I'm also cognizant of the fact that the knowledge that one's laps are being timed changes one's decision making, and not always for the better. I remember reading an article about the Nurburgring where the cops said that when they have to go retrieve a wreck, 80% of the time the driver had a timer of some sort running. I suspect that's why even when regular insurance policies tended to cover track driving, they still excluded "timed or competitive" events; they know perfectly well the effects of those factors. I have an insurance policy with similar language, so technically I wouldn't have coverage if I were to time myself, nor do I want to spend ~$3500/yr on independent track insurance. Yes I know insurance would never know if I were timing myself, but personal integrity is important to me, and again, I'd just as soon not elevate my risk of crashing in the first place.
My bottom line is that when I'm at the track, my main priorities are to have a good time, help others learn to drive on a track, and bring my car home intact. Of course driving on a track at all creates a risk that my car won't come home intact, but everyone has to draw their acceptable risk for rewards gained line somewhere.
My bottom line is that when I'm at the track, my main priorities are to have a good time, help others learn to drive on a track, and bring my car home intact. Of course driving on a track at all creates a risk that my car won't come home intact, but everyone has to draw their acceptable risk for rewards gained line somewhere.
07-30-2016, 04:09 PM
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Ha! Ok, well in my case it's a calculated decision. Yes, I'm well aware that I'm sacrificing some rate of progress and very likely some ultimate skill level by not timing laps and logging data. But I'm also cognizant of the fact that the knowledge that one's laps are being timed changes one's decision making, and not always for the better. I remember reading an article about the Nurburgring where the cops said that when they have to go retrieve a wreck, 80% of the time the driver had a timer of some sort running. I suspect that's why even when regular insurance policies tended to cover track driving, they still excluded "timed or competitive" events; they know perfectly well the effects of those factors. I have an insurance policy with similar language, so technically I wouldn't have coverage if I were to time myself, nor do I want to spend ~$3500/yr on independent track insurance. Yes I know insurance would never know if I were timing myself, but personal integrity is important to me, and again, I'd just as soon not elevate my risk of crashing in the first place.
My bottom line is that when I'm at the track, my main priorities are to have a good time, help others learn to drive on a track, and bring my car home intact. Of course driving on a track at all creates a risk that my car won't come home intact, but everyone has to draw their acceptable risk for rewards gained line somewhere.
My bottom line is that when I'm at the track, my main priorities are to have a good time, help others learn to drive on a track, and bring my car home intact. Of course driving on a track at all creates a risk that my car won't come home intact, but everyone has to draw their acceptable risk for rewards gained line somewhere.
07-30-2016, 05:29 PM
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Ha! Ok, well in my case it's a calculated decision. Yes, I'm well aware that I'm sacrificing some rate of progress and very likely some ultimate skill level by not timing laps and logging data. But I'm also cognizant of the fact that the knowledge that one's laps are being timed changes one's decision making, and not always for the better. I remember reading an article about the Nurburgring where the cops said that when they have to go retrieve a wreck, 80% of the time the driver had a timer of some sort running. I suspect that's why even when regular insurance policies tended to cover track driving, they still excluded "timed or competitive" events; they know perfectly well the effects of those factors. I have an insurance policy with similar language, so technically I wouldn't have coverage if I were to time myself, nor do I want to spend ~$3500/yr on independent track insurance. Yes I know insurance would never know if I were timing myself, but personal integrity is important to me, and again, I'd just as soon not elevate my risk of crashing in the first place. My bottom line is that when I'm at the track, my main priorities are to have a good time, help others learn to drive on a track, and bring my car home intact. Of course driving on a track at all creates a risk that my car won't come home intact, but everyone has to draw their acceptable risk for rewards gained line somewhere.
Well said. Agree with this 10000 percent.
08-03-2016, 04:49 PM
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08-03-2016, 05:27 PM
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Thanks Damon. That's s Shame. It's a bigger market with 3300 991.1 GT3 (many used in track), 900 X 911R (probably few will be used in track) and the up coming 991.2 GT3 (assumes same width) of which in sure they will make closer to 5000 units...
08-03-2016, 05:31 PM
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