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Old 08-08-2018, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
The DSC helps but the TPC toe links and a good alignment will cure the instability under braking....if you later add the DSC they have a specific MAP for cars with TPC toe links that even compensates for front end dive during heavy braking....you are going to love the combo.
The instability I'm referring to isn't the usually lateral "swaying" but more of a 3D instability that I've encountered only at Summit Point, in three of the braking zones, especially T3.
Old 08-08-2018, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
The instability I'm referring to isn't the usually lateral "swaying" but more of a 3D instability that I've encountered only at Summit Point, in three of the braking zones, especially T3.
Your Limited Slip Diff may be shot.
Old 08-08-2018, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lehman
Your Limited Slip Diff may be shot.
It's happened with both the GT3 and GT4 from day one at Summit Point. I think the OEM active damping just isn't able to control the car well enough in those braking zones.

Old 08-09-2018, 03:11 PM
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Alignment.... toe settings and tpc toe links

If that works for T7 Sebring it works for any track

( and it does)
Old 08-09-2018, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcD147
Alignment.... toe settings and tpc toe links

If that works for T7 Sebring it works for any track

( and it does)
Will do for GT4. I should clarify that the issue at Summit Point is actually worse with the GT3, maybe due to the different weight distribution, higher spring rates, etc. So plan is to try the DSC box in the GT3, and start with the toe links and alignment in the GT4.
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This thread needs to be updated!
Old 09-14-2018, 04:59 PM
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1:35.57 at Mid Ohio on Pirelli DH slicks
seems unusual as I was running 1:38-1:39 consistently the rest of the day?


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Default Road America - 2:21.74- 30 Aug 2018 - Pirelli slicks - Mono-ball Suspension


David Murry Track Days at Road America, August 2018. 2:21.74. There was more in the car, just didn't quite get there that weekend. And then the motor let go on me shortly after this.
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Old 09-15-2018, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 24Chromium
David Murry Track Days at Road America, August 2018. 2:21.74. There was more in the car, just didn't quite get there that weekend. And then the motor let go on me shortly after this.
What happened to your motor ?

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Originally Posted by James88
What happened to your motor ?
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by kfmcmahon
+1
Still waiting...
Old 09-16-2018, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GeoJoe
Still waiting...
Looks like he doesn't want to say anything.
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Originally Posted by James88
Looks like he doesn't want to say anything.
Honestly, nothing to report at the moment. I heard a bucket of bolts as I turned into T1, so I put two feet in and drove it straight off. As I sat there, looking for flames, or a trail of oil, trying to smell for oil or flame, but nothing of the sort could be detected. Then it suddenly occurs to me that the engine wasn’t running.

Once the engine covers overs were removed, we found a small crack in the cast housing cover for the timing chain. We suspect either something broke in the timing chain assembly, or perhaps the cam bolts came loose. Either way, the chain became loose enough to whack its cover and break it.

I’m still mulling over how best to proceed. Tear it down and fix it, or simply replace the engine.
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Originally Posted by 24Chromium


Honestly, nothing to report at the moment. I heard a bucket of bolts as I turned into T1, so I put two feet in and drove it straight off. As I sat there, looking for flames, or a trail of oil, trying to smell for oil or flame, but nothing of the sort could be detected. Then it suddenly occurs to me that the engine wasn’t running.

Once the engine covers overs were removed, we found a small crack in the cast housing cover for the timing chain. We suspect either something broke in the timing chain assembly, or perhaps the cam bolts came loose. Either way, the chain became loose enough to whack its cover and break it.

I’m still mulling over how best to proceed. Tear it down and fix it, or simply replace the engine.

Well that's pretty nasty. Sorry to hear about it. Any idea how many track miles on your GT4? What's your expectation re whether this is covered under warranty? Curious to hear the paths you choose-good luck with a speedy recovery for the car.
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Originally Posted by HelpMeHelpU
Well that's pretty nasty. Sorry to hear about it. Any idea how many track miles on your GT4? What's your expectation re whether this is covered under warranty? Curious to hear the paths you choose-good luck with a speedy recovery for the car.
The car has about 17.5k km on it. 90% of those track miles. Once it came back from Europe, it never saw the public roads. It’s a pure race car with a full clone of the Clubsport cage. Therefore no chance of warranty. The only engine related mods I’ve done is a Cobb tune and race headers. There was zero warning and a subsequent review of the MoTeC and PIWIS data showed no over-revs nor any areas of concern.


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