Did you put film on your headlights?
05-18-2016, 04:33 PM
#16
Race Director
I went w/ Xpelon my Gt3.
Right now my GT4 is having Xpel put on the whole front of the car. I decided against putting film on the headlights for the time being. Reason is I do not track the car and never had any nicks on the headlights. So - after my first nick I will then probably put the film on. The detailer has no problem installing but did convey they have had some issues with the headlights casting like a shadow/fog on the headlights after 8 months. Do I buy that - no because I had the film on my GT3 with no issues
Right now my GT4 is having Xpel put on the whole front of the car. I decided against putting film on the headlights for the time being. Reason is I do not track the car and never had any nicks on the headlights. So - after my first nick I will then probably put the film on. The detailer has no problem installing but did convey they have had some issues with the headlights casting like a shadow/fog on the headlights after 8 months. Do I buy that - no because I had the film on my GT3 with no issues
Have you considered just attending as a spectator to catch rides with instructors? It's usually free or very inexpensive.
05-18-2016, 05:00 PM
#18
Race Director
I need to do that. The problem aside form working like every one else I also love to Golf and have a 6.5 year old Son that keeps me busy. I usuallu get time on Sat/Sun mornings to enjoy my car for a couple hours. It just relieves a lot of stress and helps justify why to work hard other than support my Family. Do not get me wrong - we do fine but more time is always what we all fight for.
05-18-2016, 11:41 PM
#21
I was back in to the xpel guys for a bumper panel replacement (stock cutouts lift away from couple places) . They would not do the headlights, even when I pressed. He said they have had too many problems removing it.
They did do the running lights, but it was already too late after 3K miles.
They did do the running lights, but it was already too late after 3K miles.
05-18-2016, 11:44 PM
#22
As some of you have seen on another thread I lost both my headlights last weekend when they blew off on the track after a detailer did not properly install them.
Well, here's the rest of the story: They were at the detailer for being polished and restored after they delaminated due to protective film.
I did not wrap them originally with the rest of the car and they started getting pitted. I went to Xpel and asked them about it. They, or the salesman I talked to, assured me that there is no issue and that all the warnings on the internet are BS. Well, I still hesitated. At that point the salesman told me that they have a product called Tracwrap which is a temporary film that you can put on your car and lights during track use. It is easier than painters tape, looks better and protects better. They also told me that the adhesive is much less than on their regular film as it is supposed to be for temporary use. I ended up buying it. Low and behold, first track weekend I put them on they worked beautifully; however, when I peeled it off on Monday after the weekend, guess what? Half my bloody left headlight delaminated and significant delamination on my right light.
That is what led my lights to the detailer who tried to fix it that eventually led me to losing both headlights.
So, first of all, do NOT ever put this on your headlights:
http://www.xpel.com/tracwrap/
and, second, I don't care what they tell me, there is no way I am putting a film with an even stronger adhesive on my new lights once they come in, unless Xpel, in writing, guarantees me that they will, in full, replace my headlights for the slightest delimitation caused by the removal of their film.
My 2c...
Well, here's the rest of the story: They were at the detailer for being polished and restored after they delaminated due to protective film.
I did not wrap them originally with the rest of the car and they started getting pitted. I went to Xpel and asked them about it. They, or the salesman I talked to, assured me that there is no issue and that all the warnings on the internet are BS. Well, I still hesitated. At that point the salesman told me that they have a product called Tracwrap which is a temporary film that you can put on your car and lights during track use. It is easier than painters tape, looks better and protects better. They also told me that the adhesive is much less than on their regular film as it is supposed to be for temporary use. I ended up buying it. Low and behold, first track weekend I put them on they worked beautifully; however, when I peeled it off on Monday after the weekend, guess what? Half my bloody left headlight delaminated and significant delamination on my right light.
That is what led my lights to the detailer who tried to fix it that eventually led me to losing both headlights.
So, first of all, do NOT ever put this on your headlights:
http://www.xpel.com/tracwrap/
and, second, I don't care what they tell me, there is no way I am putting a film with an even stronger adhesive on my new lights once they come in, unless Xpel, in writing, guarantees me that they will, in full, replace my headlights for the slightest delimitation caused by the removal of their film.
My 2c...
05-19-2016, 12:05 AM
#23
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As some of you have seen on another thread I lost both my headlights last weekend when they blew off on the track after a detailer did not properly install them.
Well, here's the rest of the story: They were at the detailer for being polished and restored after they delaminated due to protective film.
I did not wrap them originally with the rest of the car and they started getting pitted. I went to Xpel and asked them about it. They, or the salesman I talked to, assured me that there is no issue and that all the warnings on the internet are BS. Well, I still hesitated. At that point the salesman told me that they have a product called Tracwrap which is a temporary film that you can put on your car and lights during track use. It is easier than painters tape, looks better and protects better. They also told me that the adhesive is much less than on their regular film as it is supposed to be for temporary use. I ended up buying it. Low and behold, first track weekend I put them on they worked beautifully; however, when I peeled it off on Monday after the weekend, guess what? Half my bloody left headlight delaminated and significant delamination on my right light.
That is what led my lights to the detailer who tried to fix it that eventually led me to losing both headlights.
So, first of all, do NOT ever put this on your headlights:
http://www.xpel.com/tracwrap/
and, second, I don't care what they tell me, there is no way I am putting a film with an even stronger adhesive on my new lights once they come in, unless Xpel, in writing, guarantees me that they will, in full, replace my headlights for the slightest delimitation caused by the removal of their film.
My 2c...
Well, here's the rest of the story: They were at the detailer for being polished and restored after they delaminated due to protective film.
I did not wrap them originally with the rest of the car and they started getting pitted. I went to Xpel and asked them about it. They, or the salesman I talked to, assured me that there is no issue and that all the warnings on the internet are BS. Well, I still hesitated. At that point the salesman told me that they have a product called Tracwrap which is a temporary film that you can put on your car and lights during track use. It is easier than painters tape, looks better and protects better. They also told me that the adhesive is much less than on their regular film as it is supposed to be for temporary use. I ended up buying it. Low and behold, first track weekend I put them on they worked beautifully; however, when I peeled it off on Monday after the weekend, guess what? Half my bloody left headlight delaminated and significant delamination on my right light.
That is what led my lights to the detailer who tried to fix it that eventually led me to losing both headlights.
So, first of all, do NOT ever put this on your headlights:
http://www.xpel.com/tracwrap/
and, second, I don't care what they tell me, there is no way I am putting a film with an even stronger adhesive on my new lights once they come in, unless Xpel, in writing, guarantees me that they will, in full, replace my headlights for the slightest delimitation caused by the removal of their film.
My 2c...
05-19-2016, 12:28 AM
#24
Folks just need to be fully informed of the mess actual delimitation causes. It looks like crap and is a complete mess to try and fix. It took the detailer two full days of extensive sanding and polishing to get the remaining oem lamination off - that sucker is HARD to get off and then get polished smooth again. There are a few youtube videos that explain the mess and process.
I guess it's a good case of buyer beware and proceed with caution.
05-19-2016, 12:33 AM
#25
Nordschleife Master
As some of you have seen on another thread I lost both my headlights last weekend when they blew off on the track after a detailer did not properly install them. Well, here's the rest of the story: They were at the detailer for being polished and restored after they delaminated due to protective film. I did not wrap them originally with the rest of the car and they started getting pitted. I went to Xpel and asked them about it. They, or the salesman I talked to, assured me that there is no issue and that all the warnings on the internet are BS. Well, I still hesitated. At that point the salesman told me that they have a product called Tracwrap which is a temporary film that you can put on your car and lights during track use. It is easier than painters tape, looks better and protects better. They also told me that the adhesive is much less than on their regular film as it is supposed to be for temporary use. I ended up buying it. Low and behold, first track weekend I put them on they worked beautifully; however, when I peeled it off on Monday after the weekend, guess what? Half my bloody left headlight delaminated and significant delamination on my right light. That is what led my lights to the detailer who tried to fix it that eventually led me to losing both headlights. So, first of all, do NOT ever put this on your headlights: http://www.xpel.com/tracwrap/ and, second, I don't care what they tell me, there is no way I am putting a film with an even stronger adhesive on my new lights once they come in, unless Xpel, in writing, guarantees me that they will, in full, replace my headlights for the slightest delimitation caused by the removal of their film. My 2c...
05-19-2016, 12:34 AM
#26
Supposedly steaming will help minimize the risk of delamination.
I'm not worried about it. If the wrap sustains enough damage to require replacement, a naked light would have looked far worse and been much harder to fix or expensive to repair than polishing out any possible delamination. As it is, the Xpel makes it easy to clean the headlight lens without scratches and swirls.
My 0.02
I'm not worried about it. If the wrap sustains enough damage to require replacement, a naked light would have looked far worse and been much harder to fix or expensive to repair than polishing out any possible delamination. As it is, the Xpel makes it easy to clean the headlight lens without scratches and swirls.
My 0.02
05-19-2016, 12:38 AM
#27
Supposedly steaming will help minimize the risk of delamination.
I'm not worried about it. If the wrap sustains enough damage to require replacement, a naked light would have looked far worse and been much harder to fix or expensive to repair than polishing out any possible delamination. As it is, the Xpel makes it easy to clean the headlight lens without scratches and swirls.
My 0.02
I'm not worried about it. If the wrap sustains enough damage to require replacement, a naked light would have looked far worse and been much harder to fix or expensive to repair than polishing out any possible delamination. As it is, the Xpel makes it easy to clean the headlight lens without scratches and swirls.
My 0.02
05-19-2016, 12:42 AM
#28
Rennlist Member
I have XPEL Ultimate on my headlights. I don't plan on taking the film off for many years, so I don't mind the risk (it'd be a risk too without the film). No issue I can see after the install.
Question: does anyone have a picture of what delamination actually looks like? Couldn't find any doing a quick Google search.
Question: does anyone have a picture of what delamination actually looks like? Couldn't find any doing a quick Google search.
05-19-2016, 12:50 AM
#29
Not sure if it makes sense or not.
05-19-2016, 12:50 AM
#30
Drifting
At that point the salesman told me that they have a product called Tracwrap which is a temporary film that you can put on your car and lights during track use. It is easier than painters tape, looks better and protects better. They also told me that the adhesive is much less than on their regular film as it is supposed to be for temporary use. I ended up buying it. Low and behold, first track weekend I put them on they worked beautifully; however, when I peeled it off on Monday after the weekend, guess what? Half my bloody left headlight delaminated and significant delamination on my right light.
That is what led my lights to the detailer who tried to fix it that eventually led me to losing both headlights.
So, first of all, do NOT ever put this on your headlights:
http://www.xpel.com/tracwrap/
and, second, I don't care what they tell me, there is no way I am putting a film with an even stronger adhesive on my new lights once they come in, unless Xpel, in writing, guarantees me that they will, in full, replace my headlights for the slightest delimitation caused by the removal of their film.
My 2c...
That is what led my lights to the detailer who tried to fix it that eventually led me to losing both headlights.
So, first of all, do NOT ever put this on your headlights:
http://www.xpel.com/tracwrap/
and, second, I don't care what they tell me, there is no way I am putting a film with an even stronger adhesive on my new lights once they come in, unless Xpel, in writing, guarantees me that they will, in full, replace my headlights for the slightest delimitation caused by the removal of their film.
My 2c...
Although I don't understand why everyone is so concerned about delamination during wrap removal. If you're talking about being unable to remove and replace the wrap safely several years down the road when it looks bad, then as has already been said, your headlamp would look at least that bad had you left it unprotected for that amount of time, AND it would be yellowed/cloudy. The only concern I had was delamination caused DURING installation from having to pull the film back and reapply it, but as long as that goes well, I don't see a meaningful downside.