Warwick Morris

I agree. I just don't get the McLaren design language. All those organic front curves and weird headlights and, in 570, those squinty ellipsoidal rear tail lights and generally fussy rear end. I actually liked the 12C which was quite a good looking car. For me a bit like the R8's; I liked the look of the original (and in R8 Plus guise with dual clutch gearbox it was a fantastic drive). The new one is a fantastic car but I just couldn't own one because of the naff Audi grill. Likewise I could never own a fast Lexus with that pig-ugly front grill!

Lambo always does an outrageously good looking car IMO. And the new ones go like sting, stop like hell and handle to boot.

Snowman.

I reckon the Lotus GTC430 looks the goods for a track toy!

Bardman

It does look the goods, but this from Evo:

"Limited to just 60 examples, it’s set to become one for the collectors"



These limited editions are getting tiring.

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/19717/new-...t-powerful-yet

Jimmy-D

^ They keep on rolling out "collectors's" cars every 6 months. The 410 and then the 410 in Black and gold and then this.

Just finally make 1000 cars of the most wicked car you can make and all will be good. Their marketing department needs a kick in the head. Those that bought the 410 have got to be pissed- sounds like another British car Company we know

Warwick Morris

Hey Jimmy-D, where is the Midwest? Is that like Sydney suburbs west of the Inner West but not quite as far as Parramatta ?

theplanner

He is not aussie.

I agree with Jimmy-D's comments - I seriously considered the evora 410 but ultimately its flawed ergonomics, poor fit n finish (relatively speaking), and some basic design oversight just put me off doing the deal. Also, limited on limited editions of the same car just seems like a profit grabbing exercise.

theplanner

It would be interesting to see how the mcl 570 and 720 depreciates over the coming yrs. 570 seemed to be holding up atm. But the discounting and sales tactics at mcl doesnt help either altho their customer service is great which has tempted me but the pace of depreciation is holding me back. However, I buy a 570 over a turbo s, Performate over 720s. .2 GT3 above all.....

O5C4R

noticed the AMG GTS is depreciating quicker then I thought it would

Warwick Morris

Someone told me a while ago that MB had old stock they couldn't sell hence the discounting from the top. A very good car at a very reasonable price now.

NBTBRV8

All big Benzs' drop like a stone, a bit like the 5 and 6 series, so I wouldn't be surprised at all. Especially if they are not selling that well.

Charliekay

Question for those guys that did Bathurst or regularly do CAMS events. Any issue with using a suction cup holder for a phone? I use it to run Harrys lap timer and someone told me they won't let you use it at Bathurst.

Snowman.

I use one of the Belkin Cup Holder Mounts - works a treat.




You can see it in the video here. I use it now to hold my AIM lap timer but before that I used it for my phone/Harry's.

Charliekay

Thanks mate, looks good. I thought they may have an issue with it not being secured, but if they were ok with it then that's perfect.

It looks like it wiggles around a bit, any issues with it coming out or moving around too much?

James88

I have one on Snowman's recommendation and it twists to a tight hold, will not come off. The only thing that wiggles a little is the actual cup holder but not an issue.

Snowman.

Yeah the actual retractable cup holder has about 2mm of lateral play but the phone holder is locked in tight. It doesn't come out and my car is running on that vid with Hoosiers so even at those loads the holder works a treat.

Mine lives in there permanently - I use the phone / Google Maps rather than the OEM nav system and run a phone charger cable out of the glove box from the USB port in there.