Porsche: If you want LWB, you cannot have the car
05-15-2015, 08:45 PM
#46
05-15-2015, 09:20 PM
#48
Either way, you're talking 20lbs. 20lbs more with the 4way sport seats. Sprung weight. Are you guys really that good? If so, I assume you take a laxative the night before you drive it as well, right?
This discussion reminds of listening to overweight guys at the track tell me all about the 4.5 lbs they saved with the race exhaust on their moto. Meanwhile the **** in their colon probably weighed more than that, much less the ring around their waist.
This discussion reminds of listening to overweight guys at the track tell me all about the 4.5 lbs they saved with the race exhaust on their moto. Meanwhile the **** in their colon probably weighed more than that, much less the ring around their waist.
05-15-2015, 10:55 PM
#50
My my 15 CS with manual sport plus seats and Carrerra S wheels weighed 3025 with 3/4 tank of gas.my 14 CS with 14 way PS and sport technos was 3048. My stripper GT 4 I bet will be the same. I thought my 15 would be under 3000 but the wheels and seats were only 20 lbs lighter . The wheels were 13 lbs of that.. Carl
05-15-2015, 11:03 PM
#51
Burning Brakes
I will be the first to walk if I can't get the car EXACTLY like I want it! That's how it should be if you're dropping 100K.
If you do not offer LWBs/Sapphire Blue and God knows what else next,have them removed from the configurator,so that John Doe,who's never been on Rennlist and has no idea what's going on but wants a GT4,will understand why he can't have what's listed as available for sale.
If you do not offer LWBs/Sapphire Blue and God knows what else next,have them removed from the configurator,so that John Doe,who's never been on Rennlist and has no idea what's going on but wants a GT4,will understand why he can't have what's listed as available for sale.
05-15-2015, 11:19 PM
#52
Nordschleife Master
05-16-2015, 12:03 AM
#53
Wow you're missing the point, so let me make it clear. Likely, the only reason you got on a list this late to begin with was because of the issue that is occurring with LWBs, which is causing allocations to move around and some dealers to magically get some new ones for sales success. If this had not happened, you'd probably be SOL entirely. You're whining about a problem that you're lucky to even have, given how late to the game you are. There are likely plenty of people who've been on lists for a few months, who are so far down their list that they aren't confident they're even getting a car, who would/will gladly trade places with you.
I wish you the best of luck, but I'd recommend you think long and hard about whether the seats are enough to pass on this car. Porsche makes some awfully good sport seats.
I wish you the best of luck, but I'd recommend you think long and hard about whether the seats are enough to pass on this car. Porsche makes some awfully good sport seats.
My view is that as a general policy - it doesn't make sense for Porsche to force folks to option a $100k car a certain way - others have agreed with this position. This policy is independent of the time the allocation were granted - everyone is dealing with the issue now...including folks who have been on wait-lists for several months. You are focusing on an irrelevant piece of information.
05-16-2015, 12:23 AM
#54
Drifting
The sales competition was for April; it was announced and noted to the dealers quite some time back, so this isn't something that was as tactical as you assume.
My view is that as a general policy - it doesn't make sense for Porsche to force folks to option a $100k car a certain way - others have agreed with this position. This policy is independent of the time the allocation were granted - everyone is dealing with the issue now...including folks who have been on wait-lists for several months. You are focusing on an irrelevant piece of information.
My view is that as a general policy - it doesn't make sense for Porsche to force folks to option a $100k car a certain way - others have agreed with this position. This policy is independent of the time the allocation were granted - everyone is dealing with the issue now...including folks who have been on wait-lists for several months. You are focusing on an irrelevant piece of information.
Everyone is not dealing with the issue. Porsche is not forcing me to option the car without LWBs. In fact, my dealer tells me that I can 'hold' my allocation while the LWB shortage is resolved (hopefully resolved...).
I would suggest that you ask your dealer why you are being told to accept a non-LWB car or loose the allocation.
05-16-2015, 01:19 AM
#55
The tactical point is that the April sales contest resulted in an allocation that YOU very recently received.
Everyone is not dealing with the issue. Porsche is not forcing me to option the car without LWBs. In fact, my dealer tells me that I can 'hold' my allocation while the LWB shortage is resolved (hopefully resolved...).
I would suggest that you ask your dealer why you are being told to accept a non-LWB car or loose the allocation.
Everyone is not dealing with the issue. Porsche is not forcing me to option the car without LWBs. In fact, my dealer tells me that I can 'hold' my allocation while the LWB shortage is resolved (hopefully resolved...).
I would suggest that you ask your dealer why you are being told to accept a non-LWB car or loose the allocation.
05-16-2015, 01:28 AM
#56
The sales competition was for April; it was announced and noted to the dealers quite some time back, so this isn't something that was as tactical as you assume.
My view is that as a general policy - it doesn't make sense for Porsche to force folks to option a $100k car a certain way - others have agreed with this position. This policy is independent of the time the allocation were granted - everyone is dealing with the issue now...including folks who have been on wait-lists for several months. You are focusing on an irrelevant piece of information.
My view is that as a general policy - it doesn't make sense for Porsche to force folks to option a $100k car a certain way - others have agreed with this position. This policy is independent of the time the allocation were granted - everyone is dealing with the issue now...including folks who have been on wait-lists for several months. You are focusing on an irrelevant piece of information.
Again, if you have to have LWBs, your best bet is probably to get on as many other lists as you can.
05-16-2015, 01:35 AM
#57
You both said it better than I could.
mcdavis: I got a Q4 allocation by my dealer back when they got their yearly allocation number. I was probably #3 on their list. Now they got the July slot so they offered it to me. Since I neither can get LWB nor Euro Delivery the dealer was ok with me holding the original allocation and have now offered the slot to the NEXT person on the list (who likely will be taking the sport seats).
Since I have this other allocation, I can wait. if I still only can get sport seats and no LWB, I will order it with the 4 way seats and start to save for the aftermarket upgrade. I am not in a big hurry, having an awesome 981S Boxster to enjoy the summer and DEs and AutoXs.
It seems you got exceedingly lucky to either jump the waiting list or get the ONLY allocation your dealer has left for this year (if he is a small dealer and only got one for the year). So he has no allocation you can exchange spots.
So if you want the car, get it. If I was you, I would. Arrange something with him about getting LWB afterwards or a free track trigger or some other thing. If not, let the next person on the list have it.
mcdavis: I got a Q4 allocation by my dealer back when they got their yearly allocation number. I was probably #3 on their list. Now they got the July slot so they offered it to me. Since I neither can get LWB nor Euro Delivery the dealer was ok with me holding the original allocation and have now offered the slot to the NEXT person on the list (who likely will be taking the sport seats).
Since I have this other allocation, I can wait. if I still only can get sport seats and no LWB, I will order it with the 4 way seats and start to save for the aftermarket upgrade. I am not in a big hurry, having an awesome 981S Boxster to enjoy the summer and DEs and AutoXs.
It seems you got exceedingly lucky to either jump the waiting list or get the ONLY allocation your dealer has left for this year (if he is a small dealer and only got one for the year). So he has no allocation you can exchange spots.
So if you want the car, get it. If I was you, I would. Arrange something with him about getting LWB afterwards or a free track trigger or some other thing. If not, let the next person on the list have it.
Wow you're missing the point, so let me make it clear. Likely, the only reason you got on a list this late to begin with was because of the issue that is occurring with LWBs, which is causing allocations to move around and some dealers to magically get some new ones for sales success. If this had not happened, you'd probably be SOL entirely. You're whining about a problem that you're lucky to even have, given how late to the game you are. There are likely plenty of people who've been on lists for a few months, who are so far down their list that they aren't confident they're even getting a car, who would/will gladly trade places with you.
I wish you the best of luck, but I'd recommend you think long and hard about whether the seats are enough to pass on this car. Porsche makes some awfully good sport seats.
I wish you the best of luck, but I'd recommend you think long and hard about whether the seats are enough to pass on this car. Porsche makes some awfully good sport seats.
The tactical point is that the April sales contest resulted in an allocation that YOU very recently received.
Everyone is not dealing with the issue. Porsche is not forcing me to option the car without LWBs. In fact, my dealer tells me that I can 'hold' my allocation while the LWB shortage is resolved (hopefully resolved...).
I would suggest that you ask your dealer why you are being told to accept a non-LWB car or loose the allocation.
Everyone is not dealing with the issue. Porsche is not forcing me to option the car without LWBs. In fact, my dealer tells me that I can 'hold' my allocation while the LWB shortage is resolved (hopefully resolved...).
I would suggest that you ask your dealer why you are being told to accept a non-LWB car or loose the allocation.
05-16-2015, 02:16 AM
#58
The tactical point is that the April sales contest resulted in an allocation that YOU very recently received.
Everyone is not dealing with the issue. Porsche is not forcing me to option the car without LWBs. In fact, my dealer tells me that I can 'hold' my allocation while the LWB shortage is resolved (hopefully resolved...).
I would suggest that you ask your dealer why you are being told to accept a non-LWB car or loose the allocation.
Everyone is not dealing with the issue. Porsche is not forcing me to option the car without LWBs. In fact, my dealer tells me that I can 'hold' my allocation while the LWB shortage is resolved (hopefully resolved...).
I would suggest that you ask your dealer why you are being told to accept a non-LWB car or loose the allocation.
The dealer is afraid that they will lose the allocation if they do not fill it with a configured car. I do not know whether this is a real concern or not.
05-16-2015, 11:57 AM
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